Poster: Safiyo at 2006-09-11 17:08:17
Subject: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Mass Dispel - Rank 1
Requires Level 70
1181 Mana30 yd range
1.5 sec cast
Dispels magic in a 15 yard radius, removing 1 harmful spell from each friendly target and 1 beneficial spell from each enemy target. Affects a maximum of 5 friendly targets and 5 enemy targets. This dispel is potent enough to remove Magic effects that are normally undispellable.
I have never run across a magic debuff that couldn't remove with normal dispel. The only thing I can think of is that this will remove buffs that are not listed as magic but are magic-ish in nature, such as soul stone and shaman weapon buffs. I'm eager to find out what this really means.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 17:22:52
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Q u o t e:
Mass Dispel - Rank 1
Requires Level 70
1181 Mana30 yd range
1.5 sec cast
Dispels magic in a 15 yard radius, removing 1 harmful spell from each friendly target and 1 beneficial spell from each enemy target. Affects a maximum of 5 friendly targets and 5 enemy targets. This dispel is potent enough to remove Magic effects that are normally undispellable.
I have never run across a magic debuff that couldn't remove with normal dispel. The only thing I can think of is that this will remove buffs that are not listed as magic but are magic-ish in nature, such as soul stone and shaman weapon buffs. I'm eager to find out what this really means.
It means you can use it to dispel effects like Divine Shield.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 17:38:11
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Kalgan? Are you new? Haven't seen your Lich self around before. Nice to meet you. Are you the new Priest Rep? Just curious.
Also poor Paladins. I knew them well. Blood Elf Paladins start shacking in your boots.
Nope, not so new. I'm the lead game designer, specifically over game systems, character classes, combat, game balance, etc.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 17:44:41
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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So a defensive class with no DPS has its only reliable defensive (thats already on a 5 minute cooldown) negated?
Whats the point of a pally anymore? I guess its to outheal priests in PvE.
I don't know that you can necessarily call it negated
- It has a 1.5 second cast time, which means you have plenty of time to stun them as they cast Mass Dispel. It also means any other friendlies have an opportunity to interrupt it.
- Casting Divine Shield would still get you out of any form of crowd control and remove any debuffs, even if it got dispelled after the fact.
- You're talking about 1 of 9 classes that can counter it.
- Using your words, if it's "already on a 5 minute cooldown", then that implies to me that you've already learned to survive without it most of the time. :0
- It costs the priest a substantial chunk of mana, so it isn't something they can throw around carelessly.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 17:53:07
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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1.5 sec is plenty of time? What game are you playing dude? Unless you have that priest targetted to begin with you'll pretty much never make it in time.
True, priests are never targeted to begin with. :0
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 18:00:45
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Talk to us about unstable affliction... plz?
Be careful.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 18:12:29
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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You designed the Paladin around Divine Shield. If it is now dispellable, you can adjust your design around that
This is actually true to some degree. It does allow us to adjust our designs accordingly. We felt that complete immunity with no viable counter has too significant an impact on group pvp.
At this point, we'll be better able to evaluate how much of an effect this counter has in group pvp during BC testing, and make other changes as necessary. Bear in mind that everything you see in the class/talent preview page is a reflection of what things are like in testing now, but not necessarily how things will be once the expansion is live.
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Poster: Coreiel at 2006-10-24 01:25:38
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Upping the reply ceiling to allow for more discussion in this topic. ;) Please continue!
< Mod Squad >
ultima ratio regum
http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowaa/?id=aDisplay02046p
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Poster: Safiyo at 2006-09-11 17:08:17
Subject: More 2.4 Nerfs on PTR |
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Mass Dispel - Rank 1
Requires Level 70
1181 Mana30 yd range
1.5 sec cast
Dispels magic in a 15 yard radius, removing 1 harmful spell from each friendly target and 1 beneficial spell from each enemy target. Affects a maximum of 5 friendly targets and 5 enemy targets. This dispel is potent enough to remove Magic effects that are normally undispellable.
I have never run across a magic debuff that couldn't remove with normal dispel. The only thing I can think of is that this will remove buffs that are not listed as magic but are magic-ish in nature, such as soul stone and shaman weapon buffs. I'm eager to find out what this really means.
[ Post edited by Safiyo ]
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 17:22:52
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Q u o t e:
Mass Dispel - Rank 1
Requires Level 70
1181 Mana30 yd range
1.5 sec cast
Dispels magic in a 15 yard radius, removing 1 harmful spell from each friendly target and 1 beneficial spell from each enemy target. Affects a maximum of 5 friendly targets and 5 enemy targets. This dispel is potent enough to remove Magic effects that are normally undispellable.
I have never run across a magic debuff that couldn't remove with normal dispel. The only thing I can think of is that this will remove buffs that are not listed as magic but are magic-ish in nature, such as soul stone and shaman weapon buffs. I'm eager to find out what this really means.
It means you can use it to dispel effects like Divine Shield.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 17:38:11
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Kalgan? Are you new? Haven't seen your Lich self around before. Nice to meet you. Are you the new Priest Rep? Just curious.
Also poor Paladins. I knew them well. Blood Elf Paladins start shacking in your boots.
Nope, not so new. I'm the lead game designer, specifically over game systems, character classes, combat, game balance, etc.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 17:44:41
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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So a defensive class with no DPS has its only reliable defensive (thats already on a 5 minute cooldown) negated?
Whats the point of a pally anymore? I guess its to outheal priests in PvE.
I don't know that you can necessarily call it negated
- It has a 1.5 second cast time, which means you have plenty of time to stun them as they cast Mass Dispel. It also means any other friendlies have an opportunity to interrupt it.
- Casting Divine Shield would still get you out of any form of crowd control and remove any debuffs, even if it got dispelled after the fact.
- You're talking about 1 of 9 classes that can counter it.
- Using your words, if it's "already on a 5 minute cooldown", then that implies to me that you've already learned to survive without it most of the time. :0
- It costs the priest a substantial chunk of mana, so it isn't something they can throw around carelessly.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 17:53:07
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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1.5 sec is plenty of time? What game are you playing dude? Unless you have that priest targetted to begin with you'll pretty much never make it in time.
True, priests are never targeted to begin with. :0
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 18:00:45
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Talk to us about unstable affliction... plz?
Be careful.
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Poster: Kalgan at 2006-09-11 18:12:29
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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You designed the Paladin around Divine Shield. If it is now dispellable, you can adjust your design around that
This is actually true to some degree. It does allow us to adjust our designs accordingly. We felt that complete immunity with no viable counter has too significant an impact on group pvp.
At this point, we'll be better able to evaluate how much of an effect this counter has in group pvp during BC testing, and make other changes as necessary. Bear in mind that everything you see in the class/talent preview page is a reflection of what things are like in testing now, but not necessarily how things will be once the expansion is live.
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Poster: Coreiel at 2006-10-24 01:25:38
Subject: Re: What does this mean? (mass dispel) |
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Upping the reply ceiling to allow for more discussion in this topic. ;) Please continue!
< Mod Squad >
ultima ratio regum
http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowaa/?id=aDisplay02046p
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