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This is pretty cool too. Will this work even if the skill isn't on any action bars/button? If so, that'd be neato.

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Will that work with AoE buffs too, like Gift of the Wild and Battle Shout? (Does Battle Shout even have a minimum level?)

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will <slot> take a number or a name? (both?)

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How will GetSpellCritChance() work for differentiating spells in the same school with different crit rates, ie scorch/fireblast vs fireball with incinerate (or Arcane impact).

Will the GetSpellCritChance() be effected by the target of the player? IE will GetSpellCritChance(...) return 50% higher for a mage with 5/5 shatter?

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You will be able to bind keys directly to spells, using the scripting interface, e.g. /script SetBinding("[", "Holy Light")

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Does that translate to 'Switch to actionbar A unless the current actionbar is already A, in which case switch to B' ?

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Does this work for pet-cast spells like the imp's Fire Shield?

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If so... will the WoW 2.0 / Lua 5.1 codebase be on Public Test Realms at some point?

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We love you slouken :)

So this "focus" thing sounds like an assist unitid that can be used in scriptwise functions? Will it only work for friendlies or can you set a hostile as the focus? Will changing focus be restrained to out-of-combat like the protected stuff?

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Also, I assume UNIT_TARGET passes the unit whose target changed as arg1?

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Given all the new information that has just been announced are addons like benecast still possible? The functionality I'm looking is single action (button or mouse press) cast of a spell on a party/raid member without changing target. Ideally having the mod intelligently pick the *rank* of the spell based on how damaged the character is (ie preventing overhealing to conserve mana)

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As someone who doesn't write mods, I can half follow the technical details here, but can't put them all together in my head as I don't have that coding experience under my belt.

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Could you possibly provide any more info on SecureRaidGroupHeaderTemplate? I'm quite interested to know what the intent and functionality of this template is.

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Maybe it would be a good idea to have "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" (or some other event) run when combat is started but before those protections get activated, so mods that present a different interface for combat can continue to work.

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Most excellent. Thank you for the prompt response on this. You've made me one happy Priest, as that's exactly what I want my mods to be able to do.

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For instance, in Warsong Gulch, say I'm following our flag carrier and have him targetted, and the Horde starts hitting him. At the same time, one of my teammates (not the flag carrier) near me gets sheeped. Is there a way it won't be a pain to disspell the sheep while keeping my attention focused on the flag carrier? Could Decursive be changed so that I could, at the very least, still target the sheeped player really quick with one button, without having to fumble around with my mouse and keyboard to try to select him manually?

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I bet you can imagine that some of us aren't taking this news too well, especially us priests who have grown accustomed to Decursive and easy healing addons.

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Does this work when clicking on enemy players in the world frame? Could I say, set my UI so when i control click a hostile it'll Blind or Poly them, without losing my target (and in the case of a rogue, my combo points?)

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I'm full of good ideas, honest. :P

I take it you'll still be fighting hard to get us all the functions needed to make legit mods work correctly, as always?

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Yeah, we do kinda need some way to do limited spell queuing, to reduce the effects of client lag. DAoC had this even in their horribly crippled UI, and it did do the job. Effectively you could queue up to 1 spell to fire after your current spell, and that action would take place server side, so the little lag at the end of your spellcast would not be seen on the server and you'd seemlessly start casting the next spell.

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Is casting different spells with the same keybinding based on whether or not your target is friendly now impossible?

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So like now there are MT frames, and if you click on them, you target the main tank's target. This won't be possible at all in the expo?

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- What is Frame:CanChangeProtectedState()?

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- Are there any differences between the new secure functions and the movement, etc. stuff that's already locked down?

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- Under what situations would we use securecall()? Would we ever, or is that just for secure code?

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- hooksecurefunc() basically just lets us hook unsecure code into a secure function, right? Will this work for member functions as well as global functions?

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- How will the "menu" type of the SecureActionButtonTemplate work?

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- What is SecureMenuCheckButtonTemplate?

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- With the local variables for script handlers, I assume you can how hook handlers like so:

MinimapCluster.OnShow = <new function>

So will there be any purpose for the old :GetEvent() and :SetEvent() member functions?

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- What might PreClick and PostClick be used for?

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- Will you be able to use slash commands like /target, /cast in macros? Or will the lockout affect slash-commands too?

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- My general interpretation: one of the more recent changes was to make a single button or hardware event trigger a single spell. The gist of this change is to make it impossible to dynamically determine the target of that spell or the spell itself dynamically, and that the user will have to make that choice. Does that sound fair? I'm assuming that if that's true, you'll do your best to add workarounds for anything inadvertently crippled by this change.

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- Is locking down the casting/targeting interface during combat a decision in itself, or is it a side-effect?

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- If you make a unit frame show "raid4target", for example, it will dynamically target/cast spells at whoever the fourth raid member is targeting at the moment, right? In other words, you won't break target-target functionality?

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Okay, here's a short list of the things that are broken, that you can no longer do.

A) Buff low-level players.

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Do we have any information yet on how this will affect 'mobile menus' such as Sprocket, or even slightly self-organising menus such as the totem drop-downs in Call of Elements? Are provisions being made to allow these sort of things, where a button only ever has one spell it can cast, but it hides or moves itself simply simply to save on screen real estate?

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Thanks for being so questionable at this hour, by the way.

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Is it currently possible or planned that the curing/dispelling interface be tweaked so that dispellers can choose which debuff to remove (I believe it currently removes the last applied debuff?). Or if not, is there some sort of curing priority system in the works (kind of like the debuff priority system)?

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Slouken,
1) will there be any functions for healers to determine which players in their group are in range of certain healing spells?

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2) You mentioned that more events will be received from your focus target. Could you go into extra detail?

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3) Will it be possibly to bind a key to a secure unit frame, e.g. make a keybinding to target raid10?

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Here's another addon function question: my unitframes addon communicates with CTRA to display a list of the main tanks, their health, their targets, etc. I can click on them to target them. Will i be able to target them in that manner after these changes, if they occur as currently planned?

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edit: Oh! I thought up another one! I have an addon that lets me set up a macro to cast Innervate only if my intended target both 1) does not currently have Innervate on him and 2) actually uses mana (isn't a warrior or something). Will the addon stil be able to decide whether or not to cast a spell?

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To my understanding, you will be required to have a keybinding or somewhere to click on your screen for every single thing you can cast.

Also, that thing you click on your screen can't move, hide, or change to a different ability, when in combat. It can change appearance, but not function. If you click there, it will cast the spell associated with that spot on your screen.

This is my understanding, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

So, essentially, if like me, you want to reduce screen clutter, then yes, essentially you will need a keybinding for every single thing you can/want to cast.

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I guess what I'm asking is this, could 1) an emergency monitor be made that sorts and re-orders a list based on their current health, and 2) could I click a name on that list to target them and then press my flash heal button to heal them?

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slouken:

With the new secure model, that means we can't show/hide secure unit frames while in combat. What happens if someone joins your party/raid while you're in combat?

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But you could say, make the players raid frame flash if they needed immediate healing?

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Is this the kind of question allowed-

Are there raid encounter design changes being made to go along with these changes to what can be done with the UI?

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so i cant even friggin drag the window around once comat starts? jsut drag it and move it elswhere ... i cant even do that?

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If this isn't something the base UI provides, would it be possible to write an addon that can preload a base configuration while out of combat and from there they can tailor it to the exact raid makeup?

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Will the Burning Crusade API changes be making their way to PTR prior to Burning Crusade so we can refactor ahead of time?

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so does that mean that we can not ask what functions will be transfered to the new specifications from old mods? that is a technical discussion but you seem to delete that

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Slouken...i pay my money every month to your company...and i do not appreciate my post being deleted...it may have had a rant in it but that rant had a VERY good point to it...but on top of that...IT HAD A QUESTION PERTAINING TO THIS THREAD...the whole point of my post was about the discussion at hand rant or not

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Will SetBindingSpell(...) be able to bind with modifiers? So, for example, I can use it to bind Charge to "1" and Bloodthirst to "Shift+1" ? Or is it just unmodified keys that are allowed (without an AddOn to dynamically remap for you)?

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The only issue I can see with variable sized actionbar pages (needed for this) and with programmatically changing action bars in combat (needed for things like prowl/shadowform/different-target reaction/range switches) is that you've left a loophole.

Imagine a 1 button actionbar page size - you now have 72 possible states it can take programmatically.

A bit kludgy, but folks will likely do it if it allows some automation.

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Is there any reason you're specifically avoiding the stance bar issue? Stance changing bars have always been a core part of the UI since release. Is a stance spell considered a secure button?

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1) Can we finally get /target to function properly with unit names that contain a space? For example, Blackwing Mage and Blackwing Legionare are indistinquishable by the /target command.

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2) Can we get a slash command for targetting whatever unit a secure frame is associated with?

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3) Can you add unit ids that are associated with raid target icons.

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function GetActionName(action)

local type, id, subtype = GetActionInfo(action);

local name;

if ( type == "spell" ) then

name = GetSpellName(id, subtype);

elseif ( type == "item" ) then

name = GetItemInfo(id);

elseif ( type == "macro" ) then

name = GetMacroInfo(id);

end

return name;

end

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Thanks slouken!

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slouken:
Any way we could get an update for the Interface kit, that works with the Beta, so we can extract and look at the UI code (using a Blizzard tool).

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Right now I use a rough Bandaging macro that looks like this

/target Mokti
/script UseContainerItem(B,S)

Using my Heavy Runecloth Bandages and keeping them in the same bag/slot all the time. Will this still work in the expansion, and if no, would you be so kind as to suggest how I might correct it?

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Slouken, would expanding the functionality of /trade to do:
/trade [item] [unit]
be reasonable?

So a mage could do for example: /trade Conjured Crystal Water target ?

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And any thoughts on:
/castifready
/useifready

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and being able to specify to only start or stop/remove, toggleable actions like stances/stealth/autoattack?

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Perhaps have them return nil and [number of applications] ?

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numAppliactions = UnitHasBuff("unit", "buff" [,"rank"]);

returns number of applications or nil.

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Are there arguments allowed to specify which rank of the spell is cast, or does it automatically cast max rank?

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Hi there, I'm in the midst of writing AceHook-2.1 and one function that would be _tremendously_ useful would be an issecure function

something similar to
issecure([table,] "function") or issecure(function)

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Any word on equiping items of the same name but different enchants?

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Outstanding changes.

At first before I read the entire post (all 38 pages), I was quite distraught about some of these changes, and the way they will affect my mods. . .

Now however after fully reading and understanding the underlying reasons why, I'm looking forward to seeing these implemented.

Thanks for all the inside info on these features/changes. :)

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An option to enable some sort of notification of tainted code attempting to take actions that are normally silently ignored would be a very helpful debugging too.

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An option to enable some sort of notification of tainted code attempting to take actions that are normally silently ignored would be a very helpful debugging too.

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Thanks! That'll make debugging much easier since I'll at least know where to start looking. Now, a question you don't have to answer. Can we expect these in the next client patch or will we have to wait a bit longer?

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I'd like to request an additional action type for the SecureActionButtonTemplate which would be "function" to call a custom function. I intend to use this to send whispers to the unit but I suspect there are other good uses as well. The function would naturally be tainted and therfore couldn't perform any casting or targetting, but that's already covered by existing actions so no big deal.

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Ok. so I think I'm starting to understand the "new world order" we have here but I am still a bit confused. If I were to have a secure action button with the following OnLoad
self:SetAttribute("harmbutton1", "drain");
self:SetAttribute("harmbutton2", "burn");
self:SetAttribute("type-burn", "spell");
self:SetAttribute("type-drain", "spell");
self:SetAttribute("spell-drain", "Drain Soul");
self:SetAttribute("spell-burn", "Shadow Burn");

It would cast (the highest available level of) Shadow Burn on a right click and Drain Soul on a left click when a hostile target is selected. But, what if the spells were Shadow Ward and Life Tap, or Create Healthstone and Create Soulstone, or any other spell combinations that don't care about the target, and should cast regardless. All I see as options are helpbutton and harmbutton in the SecureActionButton template.

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Second question: I can configure these logically outside of combat right? The secure templates use CastSpellByName, which do not allow me to select the highest available level of stone spells. I would need Lua logic to determine which stone spells (ie. Major, Minor, etc) the user has available and then adjust attributes accordingly right? Since the spellbook doesn't change in combat, this makes sense?

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Will I still be able use things like SetRaidTarget() in macros, or do we have to request a slash command for any such thing we think might be useful?

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What if two macros have the same name? Or are macro-names now unique ?

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can the Focus unit be changed in combat by a macro or addon?

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Will there be a way to manually change parameters for the secure buttons during combat?

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* Can we get a slight change to the 'item' type handling of SecureActionButtons, so we can not only set up predefined item targets for spells, but for items as well? (Think sharpening stone/poison with predefined main/offhand target weapon).

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Will the standard mash stealth macro still be able to be used? Its the only macro I use but I fear it may not be possible with the new changes. I used to be able to just use /cast Stealth() and it wouldn't unstealth me if I used it while in stealth but that has been broken since I started playing again so now I have to use a macro with if/else statements.

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