Poster: Organix at 2/28/2006 6:06:34 AM PST
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Are we as a class expected to find a healer "friend" to walk around with us at all times PvPing? Are you kidding me? That's what is being implied by the blue posts and from non-warriors coming to our boards.
First of all I wouldn't subject anybody to being my "personal" healer...this game is played for fun and PAYED for by the way. So, why would I attempt to force someone into a role they don't want to play?
Secondly, what if I can't find a healer buddy for the day...am I just suppose to walk around half as effective as every other class and get my butt handed to me because I wasn't "leet" enough to get a healer that day?
If warriors are being re-speced over and over again because Blizz thinks we should walk around with healers all day then it's time for me to truly reconsider why I play this game.
I really could care less if a newb non-warrior gets pawned by a newb warrior and then comes crying to these boards because he hasn't yet learned which moves are his toon's best moves. If individuals learn the most effective playing style against warriors we can be taken down very fast end of discussion.
Finally, if you haven't learned to take down warriors yet, then don't get angry at me for pointing this out...go out there and LEARN how too. There would be a massive reduction in crying if everyone just learned how to overcome their newbness and started looking at how they can take warriors out.
And, if all else fails have us sheeped by your friendly mage. It lasts almost a min, and we have NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, to use to get out of it or defend against it unless we can pummel and or shield bash at the right time.
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Poster: Coreiel at 2/28/2006 1:44:29 PM PST
Subject: Re: Are you Serious? |
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When much of the playerbase does NOT play with the group aspect in mind.
Food for thought...
If you've established that you understand the developers' vision for PvP (namely, that it should be balanced for grouping) yet refuse to play that way... What's the logical conclusion?[ post edited by Coreiel ]
I do not like it, Sham-I-Am.
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Poster: Coreiel at 2/28/2006 5:18:21 PM PST
Subject: Re: Are you Serious? |
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What happened to the fast responses you were giving when you first came on the warrior forum scene Coreiel?
Is this thread not worthy of attention because of some reason? Have we offended you? What?
I'm sorry if I didn't welcome you with open arms but up to this point the blues that have visited us in the past have just been bringers of bad news from the higher ups...not "facilitating open discusion" and some didn't even know the class.
Maybe you didn't know what you were getting into, and I can understand that. Although, I would like to continue the discussion we never truly started because you didn't respond to "my" post in "my" thread.
Looking forward to our discussion...
Thanks
I'm not offended in any way, Organix, thanks for asking. As I said last night, you may recall, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence," and "this is where the forum moderator needs to step down and defer to a CM."
I'm still here, still reading, and still noting for Tseric and the other CMs which threads hold real relevance to the class. Just because I'm not giving you developer responses (something I don't have the power to do, I'll remind you) doesn't mean you've been forgotten.
Lengthen your patience and your attention span. These things take time. I'm on your side, and doing everything in my power to help your class. Biting the hand that feeds you tends to leave you very, very hungry.
I do not like it, Sham-I-Am.
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Poster: Coreiel at 2/28/2006 5:30:36 PM PST
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If you don't have the power to take our feedback to the developers and return their feedback to us, then what is the point of you being here? You truly seem to take an interest in our concerns - but the one thing that we thought separated you from any other random Warrior here is that you are a Blizzard employee and capable of gathering information for us or taking our information to the powers that be.
There's a lot to read here, and I'm personally interested in seeing that you get your answers as quickly as possible. Therefore, I'm reading everything, skimming off the best posts, and sending those to the people who do talk to the developers, so that they don't have to wade through everything else. As our Goblin friends say, "Time is money, friend."
Let me know if you want me to stop, of course. =P[ post edited by Coreiel ]
I do not like it, Sham-I-Am.
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Poster: Coreiel at 2/28/2006 5:54:01 PM PST
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If Tseric doesn't know your forum methods for staying in touch then maybe you should let him know. If he does, then I speak for all warriors when I say I am honestly offended by his lack of fruitful interaction.
Tseric is extremely busy. Warriors and their complaints are not his only concern. The same goes for all the CMs.
I, on the other hand, not being a CM, have vast hours to read the Forums, as the Off-Topic denizens can tell you. (They're convinced I don't sleep.) I'm willing to put some of those hours into this forum to expedite matters, and I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't use my presence here as a launching point for insults at the CMs.
Regarding your last comment: Since what I'm doing here is completely above and beyond my job description, the comment about being hungry wasn't so much of a threat as a simple reality. Food for thought.
I do not like it, Sham-I-Am.
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Poster: Coreiel at 2/28/2006 5:58:07 PM PST
Subject: Re: Are you Serious? |
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...What's your opinion on soloing? (This is not at all related, BTW, to the whole "find a healer" trend going on in the Warrior board right now.)
I'd prefer not to discuss my "opinions" on the class and its nuances, given the fact that many will interpret them as "Blizzard's opinion." I trust you'll understand my position on the matter.
I do not like it, Sham-I-Am.
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Poster: Coreiel at 2/28/2006 6:44:39 PM PST
Subject: Re: Are you Serious? |
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My point is that they say we should need healers to be effective...i didn't make the rules I'm just reading the posts and responding.
You aren't reading very closely, then.
Did you actually read my post? Or just the replies from those bent out of shape about being told they might actually have to, you know, group in PvP?
I stated that grouping with a healer would make PvP more fun, not that it was "the only way to make Warriors effective." I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't take my words out of context, or bend them to try to further a vendetta.
I do not like it, Sham-I-Am.
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