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Poster: Tseric at 7/20/2006 12:32:07 PM PDT
Subject: Vanish, what the heck Tseric?
   Ok. So, the list of fixed bugs for Vanish is a pretty long one, but I managed to find what I'm looking for.

In the post on General I just locked about this topic, I stated that this wasn't actually broken. Current information says that isn't entirely true.

The circumstances in which Vanish will break from attacks is a matter of timing that is difficult to reproduce and isolate in terms of actual coding. The last word I have from some of the programmers is that it this mechanic will not work 100% at the time and we will continue to push the status of the bug to future patches, which means we are aware of it until something arises that can shed new light on a complete solution.

Apologies for the confusion.
The path of least resistance tempts all ramblers.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1374645&p=#post1374645
 
Poster: Tseric at 7/20/2006 12:37:15 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Vanish, what the heck Tseric?
  

Q u o t e:
So...it's status is 'on hold' until they can figure out a fix?

Until new information, ideas or perhaps another bug alters this current situation, we keep it open as a bug, yeah.
The path of least resistance tempts all ramblers.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1374645&p=#post1374704
Poster: Tseric at 7/20/2006 12:47:33 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Vanish, what the heck Tseric?
  

Q u o t e:
While still upset, and concerned over what I think is our #1 defining ability not working, the honesty in the post is very appreciated.


#1 defining ability, ok, I suppose I can give you that. Not working suggests complete inoperation which isn't the case. Nit-picking, yes I am :P


Q u o t e:
Seriously though, if the intent of Vanish is to escape a situation, and the coding of timing difficult, wouldn't a simple 1 to 2 second immunity of some kind address the issue?


Immunity is not something you use to band-aid a bug fix. Would you then ever want the bug fixed? Doubtful, you've got immunity instead!


Q u o t e:
but it still seems like they can alter this slightly to avoid the timing problem, yet still keep it's intended functionality.


If they could do that, they would have already.
The path of least resistance tempts all ramblers.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1374645&p=#post1374780
Poster: Tseric at 7/20/2006 1:52:46 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Vanish, what the heck Tseric?
  

Q u o t e:
Alternately, for an absolutely guaranteed result, gather up a dozen low level mobs.


This is actually how it has been tested internally. The issue comes from unpredictable fluctuation in latency, throwing off the timing between server and client.
The path of least resistance tempts all ramblers.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1374645&p=#post1375076
Poster: Tseric at 7/20/2006 12:37:15 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Vanish, what the heck Tseric? *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
So...it's status is 'on hold' until they can figure out a fix?

Until new information, ideas or perhaps another bug alters this current situation, we keep it open as a bug, yeah.
The path of least resistance tempts all ramblers.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1374645&p=#post1374704
Poster: Tseric at 7/20/2006 12:47:33 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Vanish, what the heck Tseric? *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
While still upset, and concerned over what I think is our #1 defining ability not working, the honesty in the post is very appreciated.


#1 defining ability, ok, I suppose I can give you that. Not working suggests complete inoperation which isn't the case. Nit-picking, yes I am :P


Q u o t e:
Seriously though, if the intent of Vanish is to escape a situation, and the coding of timing difficult, wouldn't a simple 1 to 2 second immunity of some kind address the issue?


Immunity is not something you use to band-aid a bug fix. Would you then ever want the bug fixed? Doubtful, you've got immunity instead!


Q u o t e:
but it still seems like they can alter this slightly to avoid the timing problem, yet still keep it's intended functionality.


If they could do that, they would have already.
The path of least resistance tempts all ramblers.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1374645&p=#post1374780
Poster: Tseric at 7/20/2006 1:52:46 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Vanish, what the heck Tseric? *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Alternately, for an absolutely guaranteed result, gather up a dozen low level mobs.


This is actually how it has been tested internally. The issue comes from unpredictable fluctuation in latency, throwing off the timing between server and client.
The path of least resistance tempts all ramblers.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1374645&p=#post1375076

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