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Poster: Coreiel at 6/12/2006 4:09:22 PM PDT
Subject: Important: Please Read.
   A few days ago Eyonix made a post in the Shaman forum which I think would do well to be reiterated here:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=607966

Fulltext of the post, written by Eyonix:


Q u o t e:

Q u o t e:
Or better yet, get hit by a bus so that I may never have to read even one more of your ridiculous posts, Eyonix.

I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

This is but one example of the type of post which will result in the permanent removal from our boards. I've been seeing quite a bit of this lately and I believe that I've allowed every one opportunity to vent their frustrations. This is a video game. There is never just cause or reason to wish serious real life harm, or even death upon someone due any aspect of this game's design.

If you disagree with me concerning the aspect of real life threat, or can't control emotion to the point of crossing this particular line, you don't belong on our boards -- plain and simple.

You've had less communication concerning your review than any other class, I'm aware, and agree that it's unfortunate. Unfortunate in regards to perspective only, however. The design team is fully aware of the feedback offered from each region playing a Shaman. They've been aware of the feedback through every stage of the review, regardless of the amount of "blue" appearing on these boards discussing the Shaman.

I'd like to begin discussing various items relating to the review with everyone, but you should be aware that I won't do so while this community remains in its current state. Please understand, I'm not under any obligation ever to respond to any specific thread, or participate in a particular discussion, or post on a particular board. I'd like to provide this community with more than just announcement messaging. However...

Angry, frustrated, upset, disappointed, infuriated.

None of these feelings, justified or not, make it okay to harass, insult or threaten another human being.

We're not done making changes to the Shaman. We may not have time to make additional changes in time for 1.11, however. This quite simply isn't the end of the world, I'm sorry. The Shaman review wasn't even initially scheduled to commence until patch 1.12. What's also important is the fact that this review brought about many positive improvements, whether an individual chooses to acknowledge this or not is out of my control.

The Shaman in its current state is far from "broken", and in patch 1.11, players will feel the effect of noticeable improvements overall. It's safe to say, even more so in patch 1.12. Claiming this is the worst review ever for reasons pertaining to x, y and z isn't very productive, and accomplishes little except to make yourself even more upset.

We've heard the frustrations being expressed here with the same certainty from players of every class each time a review comes around. We're not interested in comparisons, nor are we interested in flames or unproductive criticisms. These forums are a separate entity from the game. They exist so we can hear your voice, and so that each of you can better know one. We'll respond when and where we feel it's appropriate, but that's done based upon our own discretion.

Post your feedback and wait patiently. If you've become too frustrated, don't login to the forums for a few days. Manage your own emotion before posting here. When as a community, you're ready to discuss your class and the recent review, void of victimizing claims or venomous language, I'll be ready to respond.

Those violating our Posting Guidelines will be dealt with swiftly.



I am a Forum Moderator, and much more intimate with the ins and outs of handing out bans for harassment or threats than the CMs have time to be.

Moreover, I am watching this forum very closely.

Harassment or threats directed at the CMs will not be tolerated.

[ post edited by Coreiel ]


I'm going to steal the moon. You can't stop me
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=1048749&p=#post1048749
 
Poster: Coreiel at 6/12/2006 4:15:36 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Important: Please Read.
  

Q u o t e:
Then give the customer support we are already paying for.


CMs are not here for "customer support". They are part of our Public Relations team.
I'm going to steal the moon. You can't stop me
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=1048749&p=#post1048771
Poster: Coreiel at 6/12/2006 5:08:29 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Important: Please Read.
  

Q u o t e:
hey CM do your job and ban this troll from teh mage forumz!

if u wanna start making threats at us, at least do your damn job :p


Unfortunately, I can't ban someone for having a negative attitude. ;)

[ post edited by Coreiel ]


I'm going to steal the moon. You can't stop me
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=1048749&p=#post1048911
Poster: Coreiel at 6/12/2006 4:09:22 PM PDT
Subject: Important: Please Read. *edited post*
   A few days ago Eyonix made a post in the Shaman forum which I think would do well to be reiterated here:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=607966

Fulltext of the post, written by Eyonix:


Q u o t e:

Q u o t e:
Or better yet, get hit by a bus so that I may never have to read even one more of your ridiculous posts, Eyonix.

I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

This is but one example of the type of post which will result in the permanent removal from our boards. I've been seeing quite a bit of this lately and I believe that I've allowed every one opportunity to vent their frustrations. This is a video game. There is never just cause or reason to wish serious real life harm, or even death upon someone due any aspect of this game's design.

If you disagree with me concerning the aspect of real life threat, or can't control emotion to the point of crossing this particular line, you don't belong on our boards -- plain and simple.

You've had less communication concerning your review than any other class, I'm aware, and agree that it's unfortunate. Unfortunate in regards to perspective only, however. The design team is fully aware of the feedback offered from each region playing a Shaman. They've been aware of the feedback through every stage of the review, regardless of the amount of "blue" appearing on these boards discussing the Shaman.

I'd like to begin discussing various items relating to the review with everyone, but you should be aware that I won't do so while this community remains in its current state. Please understand, I'm not under any obligation ever to respond to any specific thread, or participate in a particular discussion, or post on a particular board. I'd like to provide this community with more than just announcement messaging. However...

Angry, frustrated, upset, disappointed, infuriated.

None of these feelings, justified or not, make it okay to harass, insult or threaten another human being.

We're not done making changes to the Shaman. We may not have time to make additional changes in time for 1.11, however. This quite simply isn't the end of the world, I'm sorry. The Shaman review wasn't even initially scheduled to commence until patch 1.12. What's also important is the fact that this review brought about many positive improvements, whether an individual chooses to acknowledge this or not is out of my control.

The Shaman in its current state is far from "broken", and in patch 1.11, players will feel the effect of noticeable improvements overall. It's safe to say, even more so in patch 1.12. Claiming this is the worst review ever for reasons pertaining to x, y and z isn't very productive, and accomplishes little except to make yourself even more upset.

We've heard the frustrations being expressed here with the same certainty from players of every class each time a review comes around. We're not interested in comparisons, nor are we interested in flames or unproductive criticisms. These forums are a separate entity from the game. They exist so we can hear your voice, and so that each of you can better know one. We'll respond when and where we feel it's appropriate, but that's done based upon our own discretion.

Post your feedback and wait patiently. If you've become too frustrated, don't login to the forums for a few days. Manage your own emotion before posting here. When as a community, you're ready to discuss your class and the recent review, void of victimizing claims or venomous language, I'll be ready to respond.

Those violating our Posting Guidelines will be dealt with swiftly.



I am a Forum Moderator, and much more intimate with the ins and outs of handing out bans for harassment or threats than the CMs have time to be.

Moreover, I am watching this forum very closely. Harassment or threats directed at the CMs will not be tolerated.

[ post edited by Coreiel ]


I'm going to steal the moon. You can't stop me
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=1048749&p=#post1048749

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