Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 1:54:54 PM PDT
Subject: A small update on the update. |
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Yes, I know that doesn't sound terribly exciting. ;)
The next patch is looking to have some good things for Hunters in it, and we're in the process of preparing a preview of the new Survival tree for you. A lot has changed, and while I know you'd love to hear what and when right this very instant, I'd rather wait and get as much information as I can for you about the various changes to the tree. Just to give you a hint, however... once this change goes in, people won't be complaining about Lacerate anymore. ;)
That's not the only change coming your way, but it is the one on which I have the most information. I will continue to drill for information as time goes on and the patch approaches; with hope, I'll be able to give you some idea of what to expect all around.
As it stands, I just wanted to inform you that I'm not ignoring you and I plan on getting more information to you soon. Stay tuned.
(As an aside, I completely started over on my Hunter; I just couldn't get into the Dwarf for some reason. My new Hunter is 28 and climbing, and I started it last week. I'm trying my best on this one. ;) )
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 1:59:40 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
Please tell me you're not a NE?!? B)
Heck no. Orc. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:08:10 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
I think our biggest concern is about ranged dps in PVP, not the survival tree.
If lacecrate is replaced with anything, it would have to be more useful than SCATTERSHOT, because we can only get lacecrate or scattershot, not both. I currently don't see ANYTHING that will potentially be more usefull than scattershot, unless it's a stun.
I hope it wont turn out to be like "master demonologist" telent for warlocks, pretty much all warlocks respeced to find out it's useless, and repseced back to their original spec
I do believe part of the reason you're not concerned about the Survival tree is that it's ignored by most players due to the fact that other trees apply more to the typical Hunter way of playing. Because of this, many Hunters dismiss the tree entirely. This dismissal of an entire talent tree is, in fact, a pretty big issue. ;)
That said, it's not the only change going in. As I've said in the past, Hunters are getting a full, comprehensive review.
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:09:58 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Why? You told us that you are not the hunter. You realy think it is becouse of you were Dwarf? Hmm...
I suppose you mean because I'm not the official Hunter representative? I'm not; none of us are official class representatives.
However, as a community manager, I do need to know the game all around. I have three 50+ characters at this time, and my Hunter will be the fourth should all go well. :)
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:16:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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The reason I don't mention the pet changes much anymore is because I've mentioned them quite often, and I have no further information on them besides the little tidbit that I believe some are coming with these talent changes. I think you're all a little tired of me saying "Pet changes are coming soon!" ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:20:46 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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I made a thread on unintentional changes in the patch, folks. Use it and not this one, please. Thank you.
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:23:29 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
Excuse me, but Orcs are ......smelly.
My female Orc bathes quite often, thank you. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:25:21 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
Cay, What about the mid-level hunter quests? Every other class has some. I have tonns for my warrior but none form the hunter after the initial pet-taming.
Any plans for mid-game quests?
There are plans for those for all classes eventually, but nothing really close to release, as far as I'm aware.
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:31:03 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
Because stoneform sucks? and you have to face shaman instead of paladins?
good decision btw =]
It wasn't a racial ability or a PvP decision. Sometimes I just can't "get into" a character for whatever reason.
I'm enjoying my Orc Hunter so far, and I'm going with pets I like rather than what's the most powerful... which means right now I'm using a blue Wind Serpent from Wailing Caverns. ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:36:13 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
"I believe" qualifier duly noted.
*If* we do get some additional pet abilities with the next patch, the pet leveling issue will re-surface.
Are you aware of anything 'in the works' that will help alleviate some of the pain involved in leveling up a new pet.
This is of particular importance if pet abilities will be restricted to certain beast families since there are several types of beast where their 'wild' version is, at best, in the low 40s.
Thanks,
Auggie
As I've said in the past, the levelling issues are something of which the developers are well aware and reviewing.
Also, I add qualifiers to just about everything, especially around this forum... history will bear me out on why. ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:42:16 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
Unbeleivable Cay.
You deleted your Hunter.
You have a shaman that's 50+ and I believe another character that's high level, besides your level 60 druid. And you chose to delete your hunter??????? Can't in that case you just make your hunter the same level as it was and just switch the race instead of starting from scratch.
After seeing your post before about the other higher level character I figured it was a hunter, but sadly I was mistaken.
I'm starting to believe that you guys truly do love shaman. If the Hunter CM's Shaman is almost 2x the level of on of her assigned classes.
***Rant off***
Hunters are not assigned to me. I am not assigned to Hunters.
My Hunter was not deleted. It still exists on my account.
I am not capable of switching the race; I'm not quite sure what abilities you seem to think I have, but that is not one of them. I also cannot "cheat" up my level. That's a poor way of playing the game in any case.
I started a new one. This one I am levelling faster and enjoying it far more. It is not my job to level up a Hunter. I am playing the character for enjoyment. It stands to reason, then, that I actually enjoy the character I'm playing with at any given time.[ post edited by Caydiem ]
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 3:01:53 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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I am being ambiguous for a reason. Please reserve judgement (or worry) regarding the Survival changes until you actually see them.
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 3:12:30 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
Hola again- since this thread is getting decent attention, and it's very relevant to the topic, could you please say something about the involuntary "free" respec cost? As currently implemented, it's like a tax on hunters, the same way warriors and warlocks just got hit. Not cool.
RdT.
I believe costs for training talent skills were significantly lowered in the patch for those two classes, but I'll bring up the community dissatisfaction with the process in general again.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 3:18:46 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Q u o t e:
Changing.
Hey Invisible... my Shaman isn't 60, and none of us are official "class representatives". ;)[ post edited by Caydiem ]
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 3:22:11 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. |
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Better. ;)
Calath, suggestions for changes and such should not be made in this thread. There is a whole forum out there for you to make posts. Many people post unrelated things in these threads in the hope of getting my attention, and while I can understand that, I'd rather the threads remain more or less on-topic.
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 1:54:54 PM PDT
Subject: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Yes, I know that doesn't sound terribly exciting. ;)
The next patch is looking to have some good things for Hunters in it, and we're in the process of preparing a preview of the new Survival tree for you. A lot has changed, and while I know you'd love to hear what and when right this very instant, I'd rather wait and get as much information as I can for you about the various changes to the tree. Just to give you a hint, however... once this change goes in, people won't be complaining about Lacerate anymore. ;)
That's not the only change coming your way, but it is the one on which I have the most information. I will continue to drill for information as time goes on and the patch approaches; with hope, I'll be able to give you some idea of what to expect all around.
As it stands, I just wanted to inform you that I'm not ignoring you and I plan on getting more information to you soon. Stay tuned.
(As an aside, I completely started over on my Hunter; I just couldn't get into the Dwarf for some reason. My new Hunter is 28 and climbing, and I started it last week. I'm trying my best on this one. ;) )
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 1:59:40 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Please tell me you're not a NE?!? B)
Heck no. Orc. :P
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:08:10 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
I think our biggest concern is about ranged dps in PVP, not the survival tree.
If lacecrate is replaced with anything, it would have to be more useful than SCATTERSHOT, because we can only get lacecrate or scattershot, not both. I currently don't see ANYTHING that will potentially be more usefull than scattershot, unless it's a stun.
I hope it wont turn out to be like "master demonologist" telent for warlocks, pretty much all warlocks respeced to find out it's useless, and repseced back to their original spec
I do believe part of the reason you're not concerned about the Survival tree is that it's ignored by most players due to the fact that other trees apply more to the typical Hunter way of playing. Because of this, many Hunters dismiss the tree entirely. This dismissal of an entire talent tree is, in fact, a pretty big issue. ;)
That said, it's not the only change going in. As I've said in the past, Hunters are getting a full, comprehensive review.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:09:58 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Why? You told us that you are not the hunter. You realy think it is becouse of you were Dwarf? Hmm...
I suppose you mean because I'm not the official Hunter representative? I'm not; none of us are official class representatives.
However, as a community manager, I do need to know the game all around. I have three 50+ characters at this time, and my Hunter will be the fourth should all go well. :)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:16:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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The reason I don't mention the pet changes much anymore is because I've mentioned them quite often, and I have no further information on them besides the little tidbit that I believe some are coming with these talent changes. I think you're all a little tired of me saying "Pet changes are coming soon!" ;)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:20:46 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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I made a thread on unintentional changes in the patch, folks. Use it and not this one, please. Thank you.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:23:29 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Excuse me, but Orcs are ......smelly.
My female Orc bathes quite often, thank you. :P
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:25:21 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Cay, What about the mid-level hunter quests? Every other class has some. I have tonns for my warrior but none form the hunter after the initial pet-taming.
Any plans for mid-game quests?
There are plans for those for all classes eventually, but nothing really close to release, as far as I'm aware.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:31:03 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Because stoneform sucks? and you have to face shaman instead of paladins?
good decision btw =]
It wasn't a racial ability or a PvP decision. Sometimes I just can't "get into" a character for whatever reason.
I'm enjoying my Orc Hunter so far, and I'm going with pets I like rather than what's the most powerful... which means right now I'm using a blue Wind Serpent from Wailing Caverns. ;)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:36:13 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
"I believe" qualifier duly noted.
*If* we do get some additional pet abilities with the next patch, the pet leveling issue will re-surface.
Are you aware of anything 'in the works' that will help alleviate some of the pain involved in leveling up a new pet.
This is of particular importance if pet abilities will be restricted to certain beast families since there are several types of beast where their 'wild' version is, at best, in the low 40s.
Thanks,
Auggie
As I've said in the past, the levelling issues are something of which the developers are well aware and reviewing.
Also, I add qualifiers to just about everything, especially around this forum... history will bear me out on why. ;)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 2:42:16 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Unbeleivable Cay.
You deleted your Hunter.
You have a shaman that's 50+ and I believe another character that's high level, besides your level 60 druid. And you chose to delete your hunter??????? Can't in that case you just make your hunter the same level as it was and just switch the race instead of starting from scratch.
After seeing your post before about the other higher level character I figured it was a hunter, but sadly I was mistaken.
I'm starting to believe that you guys truly do love shaman. If the Hunter CM's Shaman is almost 2x the level of on of her assigned classes.
***Rant off***
Hunters are not assigned to me. I am not assigned to Hunters.
My Hunter was not deleted. It still exists on my account.
I am not capable of switching the race; I'm not quite sure what abilities you seem to think I have, but that is not one of them. I also cannot "cheat" up my level. That's a poor way of playing the game in any case.
I started a new one. This one I am levelling faster and enjoying it far more. It is not my job to level up a Hunter. I am playing the character for enjoyment. It stands to reason, then, that I actually enjoy the character I'm playing with at any given time.[ post edited by Caydiem ]
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 3:01:53 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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I am being ambiguous for a reason. Please reserve judgement (or worry) regarding the Survival changes until you actually see them.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 3:12:30 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Hola again- since this thread is getting decent attention, and it's very relevant to the topic, could you please say something about the involuntary "free" respec cost? As currently implemented, it's like a tax on hunters, the same way warriors and warlocks just got hit. Not cool.
RdT.
I believe costs for training talent skills were significantly lowered in the patch for those two classes, but I'll bring up the community dissatisfaction with the process in general again.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 3:18:46 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Changing.
Hey Invisible... my Shaman isn't 60, and none of us are official "class representatives". ;)[ post edited by Caydiem ]
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/13/2005 3:22:11 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A small update on the update. *edited post* |
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Better. ;)
Calath, suggestions for changes and such should not be made in this thread. There is a whole forum out there for you to make posts. Many people post unrelated things in these threads in the hope of getting my attention, and while I can understand that, I'd rather the threads remain more or less on-topic.
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Assistant Community Manager
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