Poster: Vio at 4/13/2005 4:31:21 PM PDT
Subject: A Nerf By Any Other Name... |
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...Is still a nerf.
Says Caydiem:
Q u o t e:
The miss rate on the test realms for ranged attacks was too high. It's being brought down somewhat...
This, after we were told that our 20% or worse drop in hit rate was "not overwhelming". I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not expecting a significant shift in the numbers.
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That change is not yet on the test realm yet, but it should be in the patch when it reaches live realms.
Now this is particularly troubling. This sounds like we're not going to see the results of this change until it's already live, and too late. Why they'd have no intention of putting this emergency fix to the test is almost beyond me.
Cynicism suggests that it's to buy time now by satisfying those who take bug-fix announcements at face value, praise Blue and bless Blizzard. Remember the AotH fix? Remember how well THAT emergency change went?
Q u o t e:
To cut through all the wording: you're not hitting often enough on Test and that will be fixed. What you're seeing on Test now is too much. It will be better.
No, it will NOT be 'better'. It will merely be 'not as bad'. We are STILL going to be seeing a reduction in hit rates, and as a direct result, our DPS.
Unless there is a corresponding buff to our DPS through another source (Haste, for instance), ANY decrease in our hit rate is completely unacceptable. Furthermore, our special shots should be not be subject to the decreased hit rate, EXPECIALLY after their cooldowns were increased LAST PATCH.
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There's no stealth DPS nerf involved here.
It has ALWAYS been stealth nerfs to our DPS, and this time is no different.
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There was a messaging change on ranged attacks -- some misses or deflects were in fact supposed to be dodges, parries, etc. and were not reporting as such on live realms. This was changed, thus compounding the belief that the Defense change was more significant than it is.
Cay, this is getting REALLY old, REALLY fast. Once again the developers are feeding us a line about how nothing has changed, and that it's all in our head. Battle Shout, Blessing of Might, Firewater, etc., were declared to be 'working as intended' after the AotH fix. Now, they are declared to have ALWAYS been 'working as intended', that we never got an Ranged Attack Power increase from them at all.
Now they're going to weave a fiction about how Dodged and Parried shots have ALWAYS been in the game, they've just been mislabeled? No, sorry, we're NOT buying it.
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Even with that, the developers are investigating Defense items to see if the relationship change between Defense and Ranged Attacks made those too powerful.
The problem is not just +Defense items. They're going to nerf these items, ticking of Warriors, and we are STILL going to have an unacceptable reduction in hit rates against ALL TARGETS, even if they do not a singe piece of +Defense equipment.
Scrap the to-hit change outright. It is causing a cascading effect that is unbalancing other game aspects that have been working fine for months, and it is completely uneeded.
UPDATE: SEE POST #6[ post edited by Vio ]
Dude, where's my DPS?
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-hunter&t=267745&p=#post267745 | | | Poster: Caydiem at 4/13/2005 4:53:54 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A Nerf By Any Other Name... |
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Vio, it was in the process of being reviewed all today, and I was posting in accordance with the information I was receiving. The end result is that Ranged Attacks will NOT be privy to Dodges or Parries. The dip in Hunter DPS was too severe.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-hunter&t=267745&p=#post267850 | Poster: Caydiem at 4/13/2005 4:58:30 PM PDT
Subject: Re: A Nerf By Any Other Name... |
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Yes, Defense will still factor in -- you may see a slight dip in DPS against a Warrior with high Defense. It will be nowhere near what is being experienced on the Test Realm, though.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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