Poster: Mithoronette at 12/13/2005 12:11:11 PM PST
Subject: Blue, what's up? Thekal difficulty |
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First I want to say our guild loves ZG. We are definitely the intended audience for this instance...we had farmed UBRS, Strat, Scholo, and DM ad nauseum and could not get enough people to man an MC run.
When ZG came out, yes, we wiped, and we wiped out a lot. But we continued to hit the instance like clockwork every weekend.
After being out for almost 3 months, we have every boss mastered except Jin'do and Thekal. Jin'do, not being a required boss in order to progress to Hakkar, we've resolved ourselves to the fact that we need better equipment.
Which brings me to the point of Thekal. What were you thinking about when you put this boss in? He is obscenely difficult. Reading on the RAID/QUEST boards, even MC-geared guilds have a difficult time with him.
I am the main tank of our guild. My armor is buffed around 9000, I have 395 defense, 5500+ health. And Thekal in Phase 1 hits me with his mortal cleave for ~3500!
We have mastered Phase 1...it is a difficult fight, granted, but we have perservered and are able to kill him, Zarth, and Lor'Kahn without issue.
Once we hit Phase 2, the proverbial crap hits the wall. This is the most chaotic fight ever...not only do you have to deal with his aggro-loosing force knockback, but you have his tiger adds, and he deals a ton of damage. Not to mention his health is obscene at this phase after having mastered him and his henchmen in Phase 1.
What exactly were you thinking? We have been on this guy for four weeks now. Every other boss we have been able to master in 2 weeks...but this boss we've only gotten to 25% at one point and usually cannot get him down beyond 40% health.
What exactly are you trying for here? Compared to all the other bosses...even Arlokk who is not an easy fight even with Green Whelp Armor...he is exponentially more difficult.
Are there any plans to tone this guy down?
We would love to be able to have ZG on our done list by the time Ahn'Qiraj comes out...but we cannot make any headway with Thekal and have pretty much tried everything possible...
We're not a shabby geared group...more so thanks to all the loot in ZG (even though risk vs reward is a bit out of wack in this instance)...but Thekal is another issue entirely...
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6220729&p=#post6220729 | | | Poster: Caydiem at 12/13/2005 12:14:24 PM PST
Subject: Re: Blue, what's up? Thekal difficulty |
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There are no plans to my knowledge to tone him down. There are specific strategies that work well on him, and once you've mastered them, he isn't as hard as he seems at the moment. I'm aware currently the encounter is quite daunting, but keep at it. It'll be that much more satisfying when you conquer it. :) [ post edited by Caydiem ]
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| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6220729&p=#post6220779 | Poster: Caydiem at 12/13/2005 12:14:24 PM PST
Subject: Re: Blue, what's up? Thekal difficulty *edited post* |
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There are no plans to my knowledge to tone him down. There are specific strategies that work well on him, and once you've mastered them, he isn't as hard as he seems at the moment. I'm aware currently the encounter is quite daunting, but keep at it. It'll be that much more satisfying when you conquer it. :) [ post edited by Caydiem ]
Good daycycle, Citizen!
The Computer is your friend.
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6220729&p=#post6220779 | Poster: Caydiem at 12/19/2005 1:14:35 PM PST
Subject: Re: Blue, what's up? Thekal difficulty |
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Q u o t e:
From Caydiem regarding Thekal in this thread:
From Tigole in a similar ZG thread in the Raid & Dungeon forum:
Blizz, what gives? No, I'm not trying to catch you in some uber conspiracy... Just looking for a little clarification. Are there plans to tune ZG or not? We can farm Bat, Snake, Spider and Bloodlord, but are also getting our arses handed to us by tiger.
Yes, I think ZG is a challenge and yes we enjoy the challenge. I also think it's a LARGE step up from UBRS, probably more than was intended (consistent with Tigole's comments). Nevertheless, my guilds level of play has increased substantially from UBRS and from what I've read, MC while not being trivial, will be easier for us than it was for guilds pre-ZG, once we have the numbers and have the experience of mastering ZG. Thanks,
Tigole posted that after me and is the forefront authority on such things. Plans change. ;) The second quote is the more accurate.
Good daycycle, Citizen!
The Computer is your friend.
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