Poster: Xunaka at 11/21/2005 10:25:27 PM PST
Subject: New raid reset system screws 90% of guilds |
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I don't know which idiot at blizzard decided to put a timeframe on instance resets but now you're forcing guilds to start raiding during the week.
Many guilds cannot raid during the week and did most of their progress on the weekend and saved other bosses for weekdays such as, Clearing to Firemaw on sunday and finishing the rest on wedensday because we couldn't get our raid people on Monday or tuesday.
What you basicly did was limit 90% of the guilds from 7 days to clear an instance to 3-4 if that, and then with the addition of other instances, in reality your time to clear each instance is hindered period.
If you want to stop cascading figure it out and do it, don't screw over 90% of the game because you're lazy and don't know how.
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Poster: Coreiel at 11/21/2005 10:50:26 PM PST
Subject: Re: New raid reset system screws 90% of guild |
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Xunaka, this is an honest question, and I hope only to understand your outcry better by it.
How is changing the raid reset time of the 40man instances (Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, and later Ahn'Qiraj) to the server maintenance time, which occurs on Tuesday mornings, forcing people to raid during the week?
I am myself in a guild that has seen every currently accessible boss die, and I simply do not understand how this change "forces" you to raid "during the week." Please explain this perception to me, as I realize that different guilds may do things differently.
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Poster: Coreiel at 11/21/2005 11:12:22 PM PST
Subject: Re: New raid reset system screws 90% of guild |
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Q u o t e:
Yea, I don't understand how the Blizz poster doesn't understand this change is negative . . .
Example: Our guild and another guild band together to raid MC on Sunday afternoons. Why? Because we are all adults and have schedules during the week. Sunday is the best day for attendance with the players we have. We follow up Wednesday, but attendance is quite a bit lower, and we may need to go outside of the guilds for pickups.
Basically, we would have to reverse our schedule to get far enough into the instance to make it worthwhile. Meaning, for starting the ID we would have to get some pickup people, with only a few bosses left for our guild members who can't make it during the week, and those last bosses are usually our practice bosses that we don't always win against.
ANother example:
We raid ZG every saturday night. That is when we get good attendance. We can usually come close to filling up with our guild, but we do pickup for certain classes. Regardless of that fact, if the reset comes on Sunday (according to the shifting schedule), we are screwed for our follow up practice bosses (damnit Jin'do).
The system dictates to us when we can start to maximize our gain, and that is not right at all.
Burakan, by your argument, wouldn't it be better to use pickups on the first couple of days of a cycle, and then attempt the bosses you haven't yet killed when your guild is at its fullest strength?
I'd like to point out that as a Forum Moderator, I had nothing to do with the change or the decision to make the change happen during maintenance, and neither do I have the power to change the facts, all by my Spirit Healer self. However, part of my job is to understand the community and connect with you, as players, in a way that facilitates good communication. So I'm asking, as a player, for certain players (whose opinions my own experiences in the game don't allow me to fully understand) to elaborate on what they view as a potential problem.
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Poster: Coreiel at 11/21/2005 11:31:23 PM PST
Subject: Re: New raid reset system screws 90% of guild |
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Q u o t e:
What about the guilds that take longer than one, two, three or even the whole week to complete Molten Core or Blackwing Lair currently? They will be "forced" to start their raiding on Tuesday to even have a chance of completing the dungeon by the next maintenance day.
Scorane,
If guilds are already taking more than just the two "weekend" days (three if you include Friday night raiding), it stands to reason that they can assemble the needed 40 players on nights other than just Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
The point Kili made earlier about the lava packs and Core Hounds is well taken; and Kili has my thanks for that. But as Caydiem said, give this a try before you make your final decision.
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Poster: Coreiel at 11/21/2005 11:37:04 PM PST
Subject: Re: New raid reset system screws 90% of guild |
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Uulog, as I said before, I am a Forum Moderator, not a Community Manager. If you are not interested in my honest desire to understand better the community I serve, there isn't much I can say. I apologize for any inconvenience my posts have caused you, and am still willing to listen to your opinions in an effort to facilitate better communication from these Forums.
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Poster: Coreiel at 11/21/2005 11:31:23 PM PST
Subject: Re: New raid reset system screws 90% of guild *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
What about the guilds that take longer than one, two, three or even the whole week to complete Molten Core or Blackwing Lair currently? They will be "forced" to start their raiding on Tuesday to even have a chance of completing the dungeon by the next maintenance day.
Scorane,
If guilds are already taking more than just the two "weekend" days (three if you include Friday night raiding), it stands to reason that they can assemble the needed 40 players on nights other than just Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
The point Kili made earlier about the lava packs and Core Hounds is well taken; and Kili has my thanks for that. But as Caydiem said, give this a try before you form your final opinions.
(Edited for clarity.)[ post edited by Coreiel ]
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