Poster: Rosebud at 11/3/2005 9:53:15 AM PST
Subject: What's after Paladin? |
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So, who's getting the revamp after Paladin does?
Shamans?
Mages?
Rogues?
Priests?
My money is on Priest or Mage....
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Poster: Caydiem at 11/3/2005 10:05:12 AM PST
Subject: Re: What's after Paladin? |
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Priests. Will. Be. After. Paladins.
How's that? ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 11/3/2005 10:08:32 AM PST
Subject: Re: What's after Paladin? |
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What about some rogue love? Come on we have a tree that's almost completely useless (subtelty) and a 31 point talent that sucks balls (Vigor).
I'm a Sub/Asn Rogue and I do not consider Subtlety useless. :P
That said, Rogues are behind several other classes on the list, as they are in better shape than, say, Priests. :)
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Poster: Caydiem at 11/3/2005 10:21:12 AM PST
Subject: Re: What's after Paladin? |
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Sorry cay hate to bash you but unless your 60 and you've run end game instances and done bg's for a month you have no idea the shape your rogues in. lvl 59 /= 60.
I'm level 60.
I've run end game instances, and I've been living in Zul'Gurub raids these days.
I've been in BGs recently.
What were you saying? :)
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Poster: Caydiem at 11/3/2005 1:21:45 PM PST
Subject: Re: What's after Paladin? |
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Better shape how? Better shape where?
Better at 1 vs 1 ganking? Yeah, ok, no doubt.
Better in group vs group pvp? Better in Battlegrounds? Better in instances? PVE in general? Not even close!
DO YOU EVEN PLAY THIS GAME?!!??
I have two level 60s and a 57 (gotta get her to 60 one of these days) as well as countless mid-level alts; one 60 is Horde, one Alliance. I have played my Rogue in countless instance runs and several raids now, as well as Battlegrounds.
What exacerbates the Rogue situation is that there are so many of them. I have a defined role in groups, and sure, there are frustrations -- but no moreso than what I dealt with as a Druid. Indeed, the situation is notably less stressful. Part of the perception that Rogues have "no role" in a group is due to the fact that they, in fact, have a very specific role -- there are a limited number of slots for that given role, as you want to make sure to have tanks and healers, so many Rogues find themselves "unwanted". This is simply because a group already has two Rogues and really can't spare another. :P I've seen it personally time and again.
What does that mean for the player? It means you have to present yourself a little better if you wish to get a group. I don't have the best equipment and I don't have a UBRS key, for example, so getting a spot in groups is dependent upon my presentation. I explain that I have Improved Sap and am a reliable CC'er provided the puller understands how to utilize it. I spend the money on Poisons and have the debilitating ones -- not just Instant -- at hand at any given time (Except Wound, generally.). I am a 300 Engineer and always have a Repair Bot in my inventory for those long and painful raids.
Mind you, I'm not saying that the Rogue is perfect. What I am saying is that a comparison between Priests being constantly in demand and always wanted for groups and Rogues often left wanting in IF or OG isn't really due to a class design issue, but rather the number of people playing the particular class. Rogues are, whether you like to think it or not, better off class balance-wise than many other classes, which is why they're up first.
In short, yes, I do play this game, and I can see your account information... so while I understand your frustration, I wouldn't necessarily claim that I don't know the game. ;)
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Poster: Caydiem at 11/3/2005 1:45:08 PM PST
Subject: Re: What's after Paladin? |
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Q u o t e:
Post on your main!!
Hah... and ruin the anonymity I hold on my realm? No thanks. ;)
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