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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:40:24 PM PDT
Subject: 10/17 Realm Issues
   We are aware of the queue and lag issues occurring on several realms such as Warsong and Skullcrusher. Our team is looking into the situation, as well as preparing a more long-term solution for the issues.

As a reminder, spamming the forums does nothing but get your forum privileges suspended. The server technicians are always here and watching the realms -- they don't need us to report the situation. You may make one thread to discuss the situation on your realm, but further threads will be deleted and the posters actioned appropriately. In the case of queues, there is nothing we can do immediately to resolve the situation -- we are working on solutions for you, but they take time. Spamming does nothing to hurry that up -- it only obscures the conversation occurring on the General Forum and adds up on your forum violation notes.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:40:24 PM PDT
Subject: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
   We are aware of the queue and lag issues occurring on several realms such as Warsong and Skullcrusher. Our team is looking into the situation, as well as preparing a more long-term solution for the issues.

As a reminder, spamming the forums does nothing but get your forum privileges suspended. The server technicians are always here and watching the realms -- they don't need us to report the situation. You may make one thread to discuss the situation on your realm, but further threads will be deleted and the posters actioned appropriately. In the case of queues, there is nothing we can do immediately to resolve the situation -- we are working on solutions for you, but they take time. Spamming does nothing to hurry that up -- it only obscures the conversation occurring on the General Forum and adds up on your forum violation notes.

Your realms are being set up with transfers as soon as we can get them running that will alleviate your primary problem -- overpopulation. If you're unhappy with your realm's performance, I highly suggest you use these transfers when they become available. The first three up for transfer are Warsong, Blackrock and Skullcrusher.

[ post edited by Caydiem ]


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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:42:42 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
   Who the heck is Kim? :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:44:44 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
   My first name isn't even remotely close to Kim.

If you're going to make up false first names for me, go all out -- name me Kangaroo, or Karate, or perhaps Kimchi if you want to go that route, but Kim? So very bland. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:48:58 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
While the 2 servers you mentioned have your attention:

Can you comment on what's being done long-term to help these 2 realms? We have been afflicted with lag and long queues for months now, and not a thing has been said to us or done.

A canned response was given about our ISPs once, and you've had plenty of time to come up with a solution, so don't tell me you don't know. Caydiem, as a person who monitors this forum, you KNOW this and have seen the amalgam of posts concerning it. We're sick of of stop-gap solutions like restarting the server - we, as paying customers, *demand* a permanent fix, something you have been unable to provide througout the summer, and now beyond.


Your primary problem is people.

There are a lot of people playing on your realms causing the queues and some of the lag. We're doing what we can on our end to get a solution in place for your particular realms -- as well as a few others having similar problems -- but that's not something we can immediately set up. Just be patient with us a little while longer and you'll get your reprieve.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:52:15 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
   Where the heck did this Kim thing come from? Can I get a link or did you track some poor soul named Kim down who you think is me? :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:56:27 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
   You're getting a server transfer. Read the first post again, as I edited it.

Now, seriously, where did this Kim thing come from?
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:58:09 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
Caydiem, Kim was a blizzard forum moderator :p she got fired and you got her job.


Er...

Who?

The individual who was here before me working the World of Warcraft boards wasn't named Kim, either. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:59:39 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
Can you tell us what your doing? I'm getting slightly annoyed having to spam:

-Upgrade our hardware
-Open transfers out
-Allow a 5 minute grace period past the queue if you disconnect

Come on, at least let us know even acknowledges the queue as a problem that needs fixing.


Read the first post again. Server transfers are coming as soon as we can possibly get them set up for you. I don't have a date, but that's the primary focus for our server team right now.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:01:24 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
cay, doesn't caydiem = KDM? i thought that meant Kim something something....i remember that from beta i think


Yes, those are my (fake) initials, no, the K doesn't stand for Kim.

It's really quite easy to discern -- everyone posting here has the materials at hand to find out my true identity. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:02:40 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
Question: Will we beable to transfer entire guilds? or will they potentially be split up?


There's no guarantee that guilds will all make it -- you'll need to coordinate with your members so that they all transfer in the given window as soon as possible.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:06:46 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
Are the transfers limited by time, or by how many people have already transferred?


Mainly by a set time, but if there's a HUGE number of people transferring, it may be cut off early.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:08:59 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
Cay, can you please suggest to the people making these decisions to for the love of God, don't open up transfers from an East Coast housed server (Warsong) to a West Coast location (Bonechewer).

I've seen what the network latency was like after the first mass exodus from Warsong. Many people that moved to Bonechewer were glad to escape the multiple nightly realms resets and the queues. But they paid a nasty price in moving to a server that was "further away" in the network topology.

And yes, I do realize that Blizzard doesn't differentiate the servers by time zone anymore, but between you, me and the rats in the walls... there is a difference. *wink* Some of us have been on Warsong from the beginning and clearly remember that is was an EST server.


Here's the thing.

They base their choices on population first, location second. A transfer to another East Coast realm isn't going to do you any good if it's also highly populated. As such, there may be some cross-time zone transfers offered, and that should be a factor when you make your decision to transfer. Ideally we'd keep it within the same time zone, but that isn't always possible.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:40:24 PM PDT
Subject: 10/17 EDIT: Realm Issues and Transfers! *edited post*
   We are aware of the queue and lag issues occurring on several realms such as Warsong and Skullcrusher. Our team is looking into the situation, as well as preparing a more long-term solution for the issues.

As a reminder, spamming the forums does nothing but get your forum privileges suspended. The server technicians are always here and watching the realms -- they don't need us to report the situation. You may make one thread to discuss the situation on your realm, but further threads will be deleted and the posters actioned appropriately. In the case of queues, there is nothing we can do immediately to resolve the situation -- we are working on solutions for you, but they take time. Spamming does nothing to hurry that up -- it only obscures the conversation occurring on the General Forum and adds up on your forum violation notes.

Your realms are being set up with transfers as soon as we can get them running that will alleviate your primary problem -- overpopulation. If you're unhappy with your realm's performance, I highly suggest you use these transfers when they become available.

The first three up for transfer are as follows:

Warsong to Gurubashi
Skullcrusher to Smolderthorn
Blackrock to Frostwolf


The transfers will go live on Thursday, October 20th at 3:00AM PDT. They will be open daily from 3:00AM to 3:00PM PDT up to October 27th, when they will close. Be advised that transfers may end early if a large number of people transfer, so make sure to transfer as soon as possible.

We're aware that these transfers are across realm timezones, and we do apologize for that inconvenience. By all means, we encourage you to make a character on the target realm first to test out the latency factor before making your decision. Population is the key element when choosing target realms -- while ideally we would keep transfers within the same timezone, that unfortunately was not available in this case.

[ post edited by Caydiem ]


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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:11:43 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
Caydiem, is it possible to get a whole guild to transfer. Say a guild like us, with 70ish accounts. Or might some people not get in?


I've already stated that it's first-come, first-serve. I would suggest gearing your guild up for it now, explaining that a transfer is coming and they'll NEED to transfer as soon as possible in the given window. Provided your guild members are all active, there shouldn't be a problem.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:18:25 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
Cay, is there any chance you will be giving us a decent amount of time BEFORE the transfer so that we have a day to plan for this as guilds?

In other words, can you guarantee that you won't open up the transfers on the same day you're telling us they will become available?

We need that warning to make sure people know EXACTLY when to be on.


Start planning now.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:21:50 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
IOW: You will get no warning.

Got it. *shakes head*


No, you're getting a warning. This is a warning. I am warning you.

Thursday at 3:00 AM is when they go live. They will be open daily from 3:00 AM to 3:00PM until October 27th -- UNLESS a large number (thousands) of people transfer, in which case we may have to close it early.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:24:29 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
KIM RULES! But is that in PST, EST, or GMT?


PDT.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:30:17 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues
  

Q u o t e:
Thanks for the info Cay

Are you able at this time to provide us with the servers that each server will be transferring to?

Or will it be open to any low pop?


New information available in the first post.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:40:24 PM PDT
Subject: 10/17 EDIT: Realm Issues and Transfers! *edited post*
   We are aware of the queue and lag issues occurring on several realms such as Warsong and Skullcrusher. Our team is looking into the situation, as well as preparing a more long-term solution for the issues.

As a reminder, spamming the forums does nothing but get your forum privileges suspended. The server technicians are always here and watching the realms -- they don't need us to report the situation. You may make one thread to discuss the situation on your realm, but further threads will be deleted and the posters actioned appropriately. In the case of queues, there is nothing we can do immediately to resolve the situation -- we are working on solutions for you, but they take time. Spamming does nothing to hurry that up -- it only obscures the conversation occurring on the General Forum and adds up on your forum violation notes.

Your realms are being set up with transfers as soon as we can get them running that will alleviate your primary problem -- overpopulation. If you're unhappy with your realm's performance, I highly suggest you use these transfers when they become available.

The first three up for transfer are as follows:

Warsong to Gurubashi
Skullcrusher to Smolderthorn
Blackrock to Frostwolf


The transfers will go live on Thursday, October 20th at 3:00AM PDT. They will be open daily from 3:00AM to 3:00PM PDT up to October 27th, when they will close. Be advised that transfers may end early if a large number of people transfer, so make sure to transfer as soon as possible.

We're aware that these transfers are across realm timezones, and we do apologize for that inconvenience. By all means, we encourage you to make a character on the target realm first to test out the latency factor before making your decision. Population is the key element when choosing target realms -- while ideally we would keep transfers within the same timezone, that unfortunately was not available in this case.

[ post edited by Caydiem ]


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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:42:42 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
   Who the heck is Kim? :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:44:44 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
   My first name isn't even remotely close to Kim.

If you're going to make up false first names for me, go all out -- name me Kangaroo, or Karate, or perhaps Kimchi if you want to go that route, but Kim? So very bland. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:48:58 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
While the 2 servers you mentioned have your attention:

Can you comment on what's being done long-term to help these 2 realms? We have been afflicted with lag and long queues for months now, and not a thing has been said to us or done.

A canned response was given about our ISPs once, and you've had plenty of time to come up with a solution, so don't tell me you don't know. Caydiem, as a person who monitors this forum, you KNOW this and have seen the amalgam of posts concerning it. We're sick of of stop-gap solutions like restarting the server - we, as paying customers, *demand* a permanent fix, something you have been unable to provide througout the summer, and now beyond.


Your primary problem is people.

There are a lot of people playing on your realms causing the queues and some of the lag. We're doing what we can on our end to get a solution in place for your particular realms -- as well as a few others having similar problems -- but that's not something we can immediately set up. Just be patient with us a little while longer and you'll get your reprieve.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:52:15 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
   Where the heck did this Kim thing come from? Can I get a link or did you track some poor soul named Kim down who you think is me? :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:56:27 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
   You're getting a server transfer. Read the first post again, as I edited it.

Now, seriously, where did this Kim thing come from?
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:58:09 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Caydiem, Kim was a blizzard forum moderator :p she got fired and you got her job.


Er...

Who?

The individual who was here before me working the World of Warcraft boards wasn't named Kim, either. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 6:59:39 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Can you tell us what your doing? I'm getting slightly annoyed having to spam:

-Upgrade our hardware
-Open transfers out
-Allow a 5 minute grace period past the queue if you disconnect

Come on, at least let us know even acknowledges the queue as a problem that needs fixing.


Read the first post again. Server transfers are coming as soon as we can possibly get them set up for you. I don't have a date, but that's the primary focus for our server team right now.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:01:24 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
cay, doesn't caydiem = KDM? i thought that meant Kim something something....i remember that from beta i think


Yes, those are my (fake) initials, no, the K doesn't stand for Kim.

It's really quite easy to discern -- everyone posting here has the materials at hand to find out my true identity. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:02:40 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Question: Will we beable to transfer entire guilds? or will they potentially be split up?


There's no guarantee that guilds will all make it -- you'll need to coordinate with your members so that they all transfer in the given window as soon as possible.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:06:46 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Are the transfers limited by time, or by how many people have already transferred?


Mainly by a set time, but if there's a HUGE number of people transferring, it may be cut off early.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:08:59 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Cay, can you please suggest to the people making these decisions to for the love of God, don't open up transfers from an East Coast housed server (Warsong) to a West Coast location (Bonechewer).

I've seen what the network latency was like after the first mass exodus from Warsong. Many people that moved to Bonechewer were glad to escape the multiple nightly realms resets and the queues. But they paid a nasty price in moving to a server that was "further away" in the network topology.

And yes, I do realize that Blizzard doesn't differentiate the servers by time zone anymore, but between you, me and the rats in the walls... there is a difference. *wink* Some of us have been on Warsong from the beginning and clearly remember that is was an EST server.


Here's the thing.

They base their choices on population first, location second. A transfer to another East Coast realm isn't going to do you any good if it's also highly populated. As such, there may be some cross-time zone transfers offered, and that should be a factor when you make your decision to transfer. Ideally we'd keep it within the same time zone, but that isn't always possible.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:11:43 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Caydiem, is it possible to get a whole guild to transfer. Say a guild like us, with 70ish accounts. Or might some people not get in?


I've already stated that it's first-come, first-serve. I would suggest gearing your guild up for it now, explaining that a transfer is coming and they'll NEED to transfer as soon as possible in the given window. Provided your guild members are all active, there shouldn't be a problem.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:18:25 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Cay, is there any chance you will be giving us a decent amount of time BEFORE the transfer so that we have a day to plan for this as guilds?

In other words, can you guarantee that you won't open up the transfers on the same day you're telling us they will become available?

We need that warning to make sure people know EXACTLY when to be on.


Start planning now.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:21:50 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
IOW: You will get no warning.

Got it. *shakes head*


No, you're getting a warning. This is a warning. I am warning you.

Thursday at 3:00 AM is when they go live. They will be open daily from 3:00 AM to 3:00PM until October 27th -- UNLESS a large number (thousands) of people transfer, in which case we may have to close it early.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:24:29 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
KIM RULES! But is that in PST, EST, or GMT?


PDT.
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Poster: Caydiem at 10/17/2005 7:30:17 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 10/17 Realm Issues *edited post*
  

Q u o t e:
Thanks for the info Cay

Are you able at this time to provide us with the servers that each server will be transferring to?

Or will it be open to any low pop?


New information available in the first post.
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