Poster: Graal at 9/15/2005 2:14:44 PM PDT
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Is it against the EULA to say this in General chat on a RP-PvP
/1 ((******** Are you tired of the RP Fascists threatening your account? Type /join pvp and be able to communicate again! ********))
If it is bannable, please help me figure out what I can say that gets the same message across. (Maybe less ******'s?) Or is that type of message completely against the EULA as well?
Also, how do I go about getting moderator rights for chat channels so I can ban RP extremists from the channel?[ post edited by Graal ]
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 2:35:23 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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Discouraging RP on an RP realm is not something I would advise. If you can find a way to invite people politely and civilly, I do not believe there would be a problem; calling them "fascists", however, might well be cause for action taken against you.
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 3:25:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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Q u o t e:
Your story, your backstory, your elaborate details won't get you a job at Blizzard.
Funny... when I was interviewed, they asked me to describe my favorite moment in any game. The ability to tell the story with passion and clarity was, in fact, one of the qualities they liked -- they could tell I was an enthusiastic gamer. Since then, my background in role playing has helped augment my resume; when one RPs in a live environment like this, it's not only writing quality but speed that defines skill. Thus, that transformed into my ability to write large chunks of lore text on a deadline without breaking a sweat.
But I digress...
I suggest both sides calm down. Both the rules lawyers and the "rebel" PvPers will clash heads for a while, but eventually some median existence will settle into place. I would suggest both sides -- Graal included -- not get so worked up. ;)
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 3:30:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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Tell that to the GMs then.
As for Caydiem... yes, we will (and are) calming down, but realize that we're rather protective of our new territory and have no intention of letting it be overtaken. :)
I'm playing on there too, remember.
I've done my fair share of poking at the affronted PvPers when they're asked to calm it down a bit, and have, in fact, outright converted a few of them onto the RP side of things.
You will be assimilated...
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 3:31:22 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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Hierachial.
Have you ever got a job by belittling those who don't RP like you?
Are they "belittling" you, or simply telling you to play by the rules to which you agreed by making a character there? Saying "reported" is not, in fact, a belittling statement.
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 3:45:05 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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Q u o t e:
Perhaps Belittle was the wrong word. Lemme try something more fitting:
INTIMIDATE
Have you READ the General chat lately?
The forums?
What you can't quantize are the scores of people coming from PvP servers who want to take place in RP, but are outright *PARANOID* to take place in any form of communication!
To quote one guy: I'm afraid to thank people!
Why is this the kind of product you want?
Maybe it's different where I'm playing -- I'm not Horde on Maelstrom -- but I haven't seen anything nearly as bad as you describe.
In all honesty, you don't need to speak in a flowery way or spend 15 minutes hemming and hawing over a simple statement. By the same token, using your previous example "ud rg" probably isn't the best way to do it, either. Here's a paraphrased example of the type of communication I've had with others to accomplish a goal:
"Need to escort the traitor?"
"Yes."
"Yep"
*everyone is invited to the group*
*someone is attacked*
"Help"
*no one says anything, we charge in and kill the offender before continuing on, eventually leading him to the hideout without further incident*
"Well, that was easy.."
"Yeah."
"Indeed"
"Thanks for the help!"
*leaves the group*
Now, if you'll notice, nothing in the above was particularly "in character" -- but it was perfectly within the rules, and no one will take issue with that sort of behavior.
You seem, by your posts, Graal, to be an articulate sort of fellow; the only time I ever comment on spelling in game is if 1) it's so atrociously misspelled that I can't recognize what the individual is trying to communicate, or 2) someone is correcting someone else and spells something wrong (glass houses and all that). I think you'll find that if you stop stressing -- and don't go to extremes on abbreviations -- people will be fine with you provided you do your best.
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 3:48:10 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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Indeed. Afraid to thank people? "Thanks" is four simple keystrokes longer than "TY" and no one will take you to task for it.
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 3:49:27 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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Or we actually care about the other players in the community.
LocalDefense worked quite well last night in Westfall. *cough*
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 4:28:05 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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I pose one simple question to you, Graal, since you're 1) very concerned about the situation on RP-PvP realms, and 2) citing the situation on PvP realms and how it works to back you up...
...have you been in a hectic situation like the ones you describe -- truly hectic, as maddened as you say it gets -- on an RP-PvP realm?
Now, I'm not the wagering sort, but I'll bet you that, in the heat of the moment, no one's going to report you. RPers aren't idiots -- they know that there are times where the information communicated is more important than the way it's done, and I think you'll see a lot more maturity than you fear will be there.
Nothing that has happened on the realms yet can really be listed as examples. No one's invested in what they have yet. No one's settled. Once the communities resolve themselves -- and they will -- you'll find that people understand there's a time and place for everything.
By the same token, I don't necessarily think that the "UD RG TR SM" method you state is the best way to communicate either. It's best to find a happy medium -- something you can type quickly without thinking about it and something that other people will also be able to understand without a second glance. In your example, it's a failure on the second point. Now, it'll be different things to different people, but in general I've found that a few simple English words -- not abbreviations -- can get my point across quickly and efficiently without tripping me up. (This may be because I don't worry about correcting myself and am a fairly fast typist, however).
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/15/2005 4:48:34 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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No, Graal, I haven't led one.
I've participated in one very much like that, though.
The leader was still able to communicate in a manner that was understood by everyone and made sense, regardless of the situation. It can be done; I've seen it happen.
If you're concerned about party chat, maybe generic macros are your personal solution, such as: "I'm being attacked! To me!" Simple, no nonsense, in-character remarks can be used with the swift press of a button.
No matter your stance, you're still putting the cart before the horse. You're a part of the community as a whole -- if you stopped fostering the "Us vs. Them" mentality you seem to have against "hardcore" RPers and simply accept that, yes, you will have to deal with them, I think you'll find your visits to the RP-PvP realm to be more pleasant -- both for yourself and others. :P
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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Poster: Caydiem at 9/16/2005 3:26:26 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Blue: RP-PvP |
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Q u o t e:
/wave Caydiem
Did I make a mess?
Not of me. I think I stabbed you once. ;)
- Caydiem -
/moonfire
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