Poster: Afflicted at 7/20/2005 11:54:25 AM PDT
Subject: Maraudon duping bug! |
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Is blizzard doing anything about this?!?
People are constantly duping items and gold all day long. Personally I could easily do this and make a ton of money but I prefer NOT to cheat.
If you are unaware of the bug you open a trade window in front of Maraudon and then zone into Maraudon. Once in Maraudon the leader boots the other player and both people get the item(s) or gold. I've seen screen shots of people with 10 Krol blades in the auction house.
Is blizzard going to do anything about this. I hope these people dont get to continue to play for doing this. This completely drops the balance of gold and items among players.
PLEASE FIX THIS!
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 12:41:02 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! |
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I understand that this is a very serious concern for you folks. Rest assured that we are actively investigating the reports of a duping exploit. There is currently no legitimate evidence of duping taking place at this time or in the recent past. This does not mean that we have concluded that no such exploit occurred, however; we are still actively pursuing all leads. Should we find conclusive evidence of such exploits taking place, we will take action as dictated in our policies. Naturally, we are very much aware of the potential impact such a bug would have on the game, and are doing everything in our power with the tools available to us to uncover the exploit, should it exist.
I must also apologize for not speaking with you about this before now. I was away, and this issue sprang up in my absence. You should have received communication about our stance and the actions we were taking earlier than this. I recommend that, should you find any evidence of this exploit, you eMail hacks@blizzard.com to inform our team. As I'm sure you understand, the potential damage a duping exploit can bring to a game can be devastating. It is my hope that you will aid us with any information you may have. Thank you.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 12:41:02 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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I understand that this is a very serious concern for you folks. Rest assured that we are actively investigating the reports of a duping exploit. There is currently no legitimate evidence of duping taking place at this time or in the recent past. This does not mean that we have concluded that no such exploit occurred, however; we are still actively pursuing all leads. Should we find conclusive evidence of such exploits taking place, we will take action as dictated in our policies. Naturally, we are very much aware of the potential impact such a bug would have on the game, and are doing everything in our power with the tools available to us to uncover the exploit, should it exist.
I must also apologize for not speaking with you about this before now. We were away, and this issue sprang up in our absence. You should have received communication about our stance and the actions we were taking earlier than this. I recommend that, should you find any evidence of this exploit, you eMail hacks@blizzard.com to inform our team. As I'm sure you understand, the potential damage a duping exploit can bring to a game can be devastating. It is my hope that you will aid us with any information you may have. Thank you.[ post edited by Caydiem ]
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 2:17:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! |
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Q u o t e:
THEN WHO WAS DELETING POSTS? THE WIND?
Perhaps the forum moderators, who do not comment on such things but whose job it is to keep the forums clean and in accordance with policy, were the ones doing so. :)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 3:20:35 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! |
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I understand that many of you are looking for more information, but understand that I gave you everything I'm authorized to give you in my first post within this thread. I do have a few updates and clarifications to give.
First, never once did I state that we condone the use or abuse of such exploits. My notation to eMail hacks@blizzard.com was to report any information perhaps passed onto you or witnessed by you; it was not an invitation to attempt to replicate it.
Now for the update...
I have been informed that the investigations have more or less concluded (they'll still be watching, of course, but the labor-intensive scouring of data is complete). It has been determined that there is not a repeatable dupe exploit. You should not worry about rampant inflation; the majority of what has been floating around is rumor and image manipulation. Furthermore, it should be noted that causing any realm instability in such a fashion (like jumping in and out of instances repeatedly in an attempt to exploit or otherwise cause something not intended by Blizzard) is an actionable offense and we will be watching for offenders. Feel free to report people you see doing this to the GM staff.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 3:48:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! |
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Pariax, I am sorry if my phrasing was unclear... perhaps I should provide an example or two.
Let's say that a guildmate of yours finds instructions to this supposed exploit and posts it on your guild forum. You do not need to -- and indeed, should not -- perform these instructions before reporting it; you should pass it along to our hacks team. It is their job to investigate and determine the veracity of the claim, not yours. :)
I did not delete one thread of yours, but rather locked it -- I suggest you read the comment I left.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 4:40:47 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! |
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Pariax, just because you saw it occurring before the news hit the major news sites does not mean that you were witnessing something other than an attempt to exploit the selfsame thing. There are other venues of getting information.
I suggest you cease pursuing this on the forum, as I have no further information to give and probably will never have the particular information you seek.
As a reminder, attempting to do this for any reason is actionable. Let our team verify such things -- submit any information you have, but do not attempt to recreate it.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 12:41:02 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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I understand that this is a very serious concern for you folks. Rest assured that we are actively investigating the reports of a duping exploit. There is currently no legitimate evidence of duping taking place at this time or in the recent past. This does not mean that we have concluded that no such exploit occurred, however; we are still actively pursuing all leads. Should we find conclusive evidence of such exploits taking place, we will take action as dictated in our policies. Naturally, we are very much aware of the potential impact such a bug would have on the game, and are doing everything in our power with the tools available to us to uncover the exploit, should it exist.
I must also apologize for not speaking with you about this before now. We were away, and this issue sprang up in our absence. You should have received communication about our stance and the actions we were taking earlier than this. I recommend that, should you find any evidence of this exploit, you eMail hacks@blizzard.com to inform our team. As I'm sure you understand, the potential damage a duping exploit can bring to a game can be devastating. It is my hope that you will aid us with any information you may have. Thank you.[ post edited by Caydiem ]
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 2:17:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
THEN WHO WAS DELETING POSTS? THE WIND?
Perhaps the forum moderators, who do not comment on such things but whose job it is to keep the forums clean and in accordance with policy, were the ones doing so. :)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 3:20:35 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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I understand that many of you are looking for more information, but understand that I gave you everything I'm authorized to give you in my first post within this thread. I do have a few updates and clarifications to give.
First, never once did I state that we condone the use or abuse of such exploits. My notation to eMail hacks@blizzard.com was to report any information perhaps passed onto you or witnessed by you; it was not an invitation to attempt to replicate it.
Now for the update...
I have been informed that the investigations have more or less concluded (they'll still be watching, of course, but the labor-intensive scouring of data is complete). It has been determined that there is not a repeatable dupe exploit. You should not worry about rampant inflation; the majority of what has been floating around is rumor and image manipulation. Furthermore, it should be noted that causing any realm instability in such a fashion (like jumping in and out of instances repeatedly in an attempt to exploit or otherwise cause something not intended by Blizzard) is an actionable offense and we will be watching for offenders. Feel free to report people you see doing this to the GM staff.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 3:48:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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Pariax, I am sorry if my phrasing was unclear... perhaps I should provide an example or two.
Let's say that a guildmate of yours finds instructions to this supposed exploit and posts it on your guild forum. You do not need to -- and indeed, should not -- perform these instructions before reporting it; you should pass it along to our hacks team. It is their job to investigate and determine the veracity of the claim, not yours. :)
I did not delete one thread of yours, but rather locked it -- I suggest you read the comment I left.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 4:40:47 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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Pariax, just because you saw it occurring before the news hit the major news sites does not mean that you were witnessing something other than an attempt to exploit the selfsame thing. There are other venues of getting information.
I suggest you cease pursuing this on the forum, as I have no further information to give and probably will never have the particular information you seek.
As a reminder, attempting to do this for any reason is actionable. Let our team verify such things -- submit any information you have, but do not attempt to recreate it.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 7:56:01 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! |
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Albrecht, your theory is interesting but completely incorrect. :P
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 8:22:33 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! |
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We are not in denial. As I've said, we're still watching. However, I have stated time and time again that the forums are not the appropriate place to report your proof, and I am doing everything in my power to reinforce that. I cannot action people in game, but the notation in the Forum Guidelines sticky and my repeated posts today have apparently not been enough to convince you to use the proper means of reporting the problems you're observing. As such, I am taking firmer action. I want your reports to get to the right people, and posting them on the forum is not part of that process.
Submit an in-game ticket or eMail hacks@blizzard.com -- do not post your reports on the forum.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 8:24:39 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! |
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It's an easier way to communicate with the community managers, perhaps, but not the people you want to reach. I understand how the forums might be tempting because there's the distinct possibility you'll get a much more visible response, but it is far, far less effective than contacting the right people in the first place.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 12:41:02 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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I understand that this is a very serious concern for you folks. Rest assured that we are actively investigating the reports of a duping exploit. There is currently no legitimate evidence of duping taking place at this time or in the recent past. This does not mean that we have concluded that no such exploit occurred, however; we are still actively pursuing all leads. Should we find conclusive evidence of such exploits taking place, we will take action as dictated in our policies. Naturally, we are very much aware of the potential impact such a bug would have on the game, and are doing everything in our power with the tools available to us to uncover the exploit, should it exist.
I must also apologize for not speaking with you about this before now. We were away, and this issue sprang up in our absence. You should have received communication about our stance and the actions we were taking earlier than this. I recommend that, should you find any evidence of this exploit, you eMail hacks@blizzard.com to inform our team. As I'm sure you understand, the potential damage a duping exploit can bring to a game can be devastating. It is my hope that you will aid us with any information you may have. Thank you.[ post edited by Caydiem ]
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 2:17:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
THEN WHO WAS DELETING POSTS? THE WIND?
Perhaps the forum moderators, who do not comment on such things but whose job it is to keep the forums clean and in accordance with policy, were the ones doing so. :)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4115633&p=#post4118027 |
Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 3:20:35 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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I understand that many of you are looking for more information, but understand that I gave you everything I'm authorized to give you in my first post within this thread. I do have a few updates and clarifications to give.
First, never once did I state that we condone the use or abuse of such exploits. My notation to eMail hacks@blizzard.com was to report any information perhaps passed onto you or witnessed by you; it was not an invitation to attempt to replicate it.
Now for the update...
I have been informed that the investigations have more or less concluded (they'll still be watching, of course, but the labor-intensive scouring of data is complete). It has been determined that there is not a repeatable dupe exploit. You should not worry about rampant inflation; the majority of what has been floating around is rumor and image manipulation. Furthermore, it should be noted that causing any realm instability in such a fashion (like jumping in and out of instances repeatedly in an attempt to exploit or otherwise cause something not intended by Blizzard) is an actionable offense and we will be watching for offenders. Feel free to report people you see doing this to the GM staff.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 3:48:19 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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Pariax, I am sorry if my phrasing was unclear... perhaps I should provide an example or two.
Let's say that a guildmate of yours finds instructions to this supposed exploit and posts it on your guild forum. You do not need to -- and indeed, should not -- perform these instructions before reporting it; you should pass it along to our hacks team. It is their job to investigate and determine the veracity of the claim, not yours. :)
I did not delete one thread of yours, but rather locked it -- I suggest you read the comment I left.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4115633&p=#post4119288 |
Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 4:40:47 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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Pariax, just because you saw it occurring before the news hit the major news sites does not mean that you were witnessing something other than an attempt to exploit the selfsame thing. There are other venues of getting information.
I suggest you cease pursuing this on the forum, as I have no further information to give and probably will never have the particular information you seek.
As a reminder, attempting to do this for any reason is actionable. Let our team verify such things -- submit any information you have, but do not attempt to recreate it.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4115633&p=#post4119902 |
Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 7:56:01 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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Albrecht, your theory is interesting but completely incorrect. :P
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 8:22:33 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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We are not in denial. As I've said, we're still watching. However, I have stated time and time again that the forums are not the appropriate place to report your proof, and I am doing everything in my power to reinforce that. I cannot action people in game, but the notation in the Forum Guidelines sticky and my repeated posts today have apparently not been enough to convince you to use the proper means of reporting the problems you're observing. As such, I am taking firmer action. I want your reports to get to the right people, and posting them on the forum is not part of that process.
Submit an in-game ticket or eMail hacks@blizzard.com -- do not post your reports on the forum.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=4115633&p=#post4122334 |
Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 8:24:39 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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It's an easier way to communicate with the community managers, perhaps, but not the people you want to reach. I understand how the forums might be tempting because there's the distinct possibility you'll get a much more visible response, but it is far, far less effective than contacting the right people in the first place.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 7/20/2005 2:17:48 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Maraudon duping bug! *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
THEN WHO WAS DELETING POSTS? THE WIND?
Perhaps the forum moderators, who do not comment on such things but whose job it is to keep the forums clean and in accordance with policy, were the ones doing so. :)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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