Poster: Idunaz at 6/9/2005 11:17:27 AM PDT
Subject: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? |
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Wouldn't it make more sense to have everyone across all servers join the same queue for Warsong Gulch and also for Alterac Valley? That way people won't have to wait as long to join a BG instance. I don't see why this wouldn't be possibly, or even plausible. Is this something you guys are planning on implementing? It will probably cut down queue times significantly.
Would appreciate and answer.
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:19:37 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? |
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That requires technology we don't currently employ. Remember that names are only unique to a realm, for example. If Idunaz the Human Paladin met Idunaz the Undead Mage, what sort of crazy bugs would result from that in Honor distribution, etc...? There are other technical hurdles, too; that's just one of them.
It's something that's come up, but I haven't heard of any plans to implement this.
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:25:30 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? |
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Q u o t e:
Easy solution, give each server a 2 letter abreviation much like states have, then place that before or after a characters name...
I play on Earthen Ring so
ER Josseppy
(guildnamehere)
or
Josseppy ER
(guildnamehere)
or heck even
Josseppy
ER
(guildnamehere)
You've come up with a concept. Now come up with a bug-free way to implement it that wouldn't require overhauling our current technology entirely... that's a little more difficult. ;)
And if my last sentence was unclear, let me rephrase: I've heard the developers mention it in discussion. Just because they talk about it does not mean they're talking about implementing it, and what I have heard is that there are no plans to do so at this time.
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Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:32:45 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? |
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Q u o t e:
How come Guild Wars has Korea vs. Europe vs. America Battleground Matches?
Other games are built from the ground up to accomodate such things. With the game you mention, there is no separate server system -- it's primarily instanced with hubs, but everyone can see everyone else if they so choose, and names are unique across the board.
World of Warcraft is built differently, and such things as you describe are not necessarily changed in a simple manner. :P
EDIT: Keep in mind I am not a programmer; I'm just stating possibilities and probabilities. The game is not designed at the foundation for cross-realm PvP matches.[ post edited by Caydiem ]
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Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:19:37 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? *edited post* |
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That requires technology we don't currently employ. Remember that names are only unique to a realm, as just one small example of the multiple potential problems that must be taken into consideration. If Idunaz the Human Paladin met Idunaz the Undead Mage, what sort of crazy bugs would result from that in Honor distribution, etc...? There are other technical hurdles, too; that's just one of them.
It's something that's come up, but I haven't heard of any plans to implement this.
(Edit for clarification since some folks took my original post to mean that what I stated was the only problem.)[ post edited by Caydiem ]
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Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:25:30 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Easy solution, give each server a 2 letter abreviation much like states have, then place that before or after a characters name...
I play on Earthen Ring so
ER Josseppy
(guildnamehere)
or
Josseppy ER
(guildnamehere)
or heck even
Josseppy
ER
(guildnamehere)
You've come up with a concept. Now come up with a bug-free way to implement it that wouldn't require overhauling our current technology entirely... that's a little more difficult. ;)
And if my last sentence was unclear, let me rephrase: I've heard the developers mention it in discussion. Just because they talk about it does not mean they're talking about implementing it, and what I have heard is that there are no plans to do so at this time.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:32:45 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
How come Guild Wars has Korea vs. Europe vs. America Battleground Matches?
Other games are built from the ground up to accomodate such things. With the game you mention, there is no separate server system -- it's primarily instanced with hubs, but everyone can see everyone else if they so choose, and names are unique across the board.
World of Warcraft is built differently, and such things as you describe are not necessarily changed in a simple manner. :P
EDIT: Keep in mind I am not a programmer; I'm just stating possibilities and probabilities. The game is not designed at the foundation for cross-realm PvP matches.[ post edited by Caydiem ]
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:43:40 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? |
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Q u o t e:
Doesn't this leave out the fact that there is a unique identifer between the two Indunaz? Particularly the account name. There can be only one Jimb0v.Indunaz. It just would require the concatenation of a field that is unique across server factions.
This is very simple data modeling. While I admit there are hurdles that we probably can't even imagine, I don't think creating a unique identifier is one of them Cay.
I said it was one example, not the entirety of the problem. ;)
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Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:47:46 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? |
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Q u o t e:
Please tell me your developers did NOT use player name as the primary key for a character.
I'm sure they didn't. I'm just giving one example of what is a plethora of things to take into consideration when doing ANY sort of cross-server event.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:19:37 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? *edited post* |
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That requires technology we don't currently employ. Remember that names are only unique to a realm, as just one small example of the multiple potential problems that must be taken into consideration. If Idunaz the Human Paladin met Idunaz the Undead Mage, what sort of crazy bugs would result from that in Honor distribution, etc...? There are other technical hurdles, too; that's just one of them.
It's something that's come up, but I haven't heard of any plans to implement this.
(Edit for clarification since some folks took my original post to mean that what I stated was the only problem.)[ post edited by Caydiem ]
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:25:30 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Easy solution, give each server a 2 letter abreviation much like states have, then place that before or after a characters name...
I play on Earthen Ring so
ER Josseppy
(guildnamehere)
or
Josseppy ER
(guildnamehere)
or heck even
Josseppy
ER
(guildnamehere)
You've come up with a concept. Now come up with a bug-free way to implement it that wouldn't require overhauling our current technology entirely... that's a little more difficult. ;)
And if my last sentence was unclear, let me rephrase: I've heard the developers mention it in discussion. Just because they talk about it does not mean they're talking about implementing it, and what I have heard is that there are no plans to do so at this time.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:32:45 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
How come Guild Wars has Korea vs. Europe vs. America Battleground Matches?
Other games are built from the ground up to accomodate such things. With the game you mention, there is no separate server system -- it's primarily instanced with hubs, but everyone can see everyone else if they so choose, and names are unique across the board.
World of Warcraft is built differently, and such things as you describe are not necessarily changed in a simple manner. :P
EDIT: Keep in mind I am not a programmer; I'm just stating possibilities and probabilities. The game is not designed at the foundation for cross-realm PvP matches.[ post edited by Caydiem ]
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:43:40 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Doesn't this leave out the fact that there is a unique identifer between the two Indunaz? Particularly the account name. There can be only one Jimb0v.Indunaz. It just would require the concatenation of a field that is unique across server factions.
This is very simple data modeling. While I admit there are hurdles that we probably can't even imagine, I don't think creating a unique identifier is one of them Cay.
I said it was one example, not the entirety of the problem. ;)
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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Poster: Caydiem at 6/9/2005 11:47:46 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem-Why not a cross server BG queue? *edited post* |
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Q u o t e:
Please tell me your developers did NOT use player name as the primary key for a character.
I'm sure they didn't. I'm just giving one example of what is a plethora of things to take into consideration when doing ANY sort of cross-server event.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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