Poster: Thorinar at 5/25/2005 12:05:39 PM PDT Subject: Looking for a CM response - What does it take |
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I've seen tons of threads around that CM's respond to that are worthless threads (Some might say this thread is pointless :P) and ignore other threads that have a lot of responses and are clearly important to many people.
What do CM's respond to?
Do CM's avoid posting due to the flood of responses that the nifty blue text provokes?
Are there PR people at Blizz who tell CM's not to post?
That being said... I'll give a CM a big hug if they respond to this!
Or maybe I can make some Murloc soup - I'll just toss Fangtooth to some of the other pally's.
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Poster: Caydiem at 5/25/2005 12:20:31 PM PDT Subject: Re: Looking for a CM response - What does it |
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When a question is asked that we can answer right away (as we know the information) and we're cleared to do so (it's not confidential), we do so.
However, many times the hard-hitting questions -- such as major game-breaking issues -- require other people in order to get information we need. Said other people often have busy schedules, but we try to get what information we can. Sometimes even after we speak with them, we do not have information we can share with you folks.
As far as "pointless" posts go, we are Community Managers, and part of that job is community building. While it may seem silly or a waste of time to you when we post a limerick or a "silly" response, it helps the community get a better sense of who we are and encourages others to interact with both us and each other. :)
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Poster: Caydiem at 5/25/2005 12:42:11 PM PDT Subject: Re: Looking for a CM response - What does it |
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Q u o t e: I understand that community building is a genuine reason to post. However, there are more important issues at hand. Right now, this is not a "community" it's a group of people that want to have their questions answered.
I don't want the CMs to be my buddies. I want them to work for me, like I pay them to.
If I am waiting for answers on an issue or the people with which I need to speak are engaged in other duties, I do have time to post those things. I'm not doing it instead of doing other work; I do it when I have time to do it.
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Poster: Caydiem at 5/25/2005 1:08:32 PM PDT Subject: Re: Looking for a CM response - What does it |
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We do, Phalon, yes.
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Poster: Caydiem at 5/25/2005 3:06:50 PM PDT Subject: Re: Looking for a CM response - What does it |
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Q u o t e: Caydiem, please look into the professions discussions board for an example of why people are frustrated.
On the front page is a thread with what should be a reasonable and easy to implement request. Seperate forums for each different trade skill. It's 112 pages long with no response. None. Not a peep from you guys on something that should be a no brainer and completely easy to do.
Maybe you already replied to something like that before letting us know that the messageboard gremlins are too busy doing X, Y and Z to be bothered with that right now, but how would I know that? You don't have a "hot topics" webpage or sticky thread that is updated all the time.
In fact, you don't have real discussions with us at all. I bet if you had someone go over to the tradeskill boards and talk, not to them, but with them about the various tradeskill conserns it would ease up a lot of frustration people might have with your lack of communication.
And this is just one example thread. There are a bunch of others too. Answer to yourself why this thread is at 112 pages and growing with no reply and you've just found out why people might be upset at your performance in communication.
I've already responded to that issue several times. We are not creating individual Profession forums at this time. By the time I got to that thread I could no longer post to it, so I posted in the corresponding thread in General. I'm sorry you missed it.
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Poster: Caydiem at 5/25/2005 3:30:31 PM PDT Subject: Re: Looking for a CM response - What does it |
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Q u o t e: It's not about that one issue though and this is a perfect example of your failure.
Why would you post it in general? The post was in the proffesions section. Sticky it in the professions forum where people that cared about it could read it. And even then stickies are not the answer. It's obvious people missed the sticky because they are still making that thread grow and grow. Why is that? Communication failure. Do something about it please.
We are, but the "something" requires serious forum overhauling, and that's not something done overnight. Stickies are ignored, posts are ignored, and there's not much we can do about that ourselves.
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Poster: Caydiem at 5/25/2005 3:36:02 PM PDT Subject: Re: Looking for a CM response - What does it |
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Q u o t e: Actually, I believe the very first acknowledgement of the issue was today in another thread. I admit that I missed it, but it went completely ignored for months.
You are incorrect. I answered it quite some time ago.
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Poster: Caydiem at 5/25/2005 4:04:57 PM PDT Subject: Re: Looking for a CM response - What does it |
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Q u o t e: Here's my question, Cay: Why don't these "other people" answer the questions? Are you CM's the only ones who read the forums?! Do these other people not know how to press the "post reply" button on their own?
I know the devs are busy, but the ARE NOT busy enough to justify not reading the forums at least a few times a week. They aren't busy enough to get off their butts and give you answers without you having to ask them first. They aren't busy enough to get together once every two weeks and give out a "what we are doing with your class" update.
What I'm getting at is, the DEVELOPERS should be taking the lead in talking to us, NOT YOU CM's. The way Blizzard operates, it seems as if the CM's sole job is to placate us, because the developer don't want to deal with us. That's a skewed image to be putting out, and wheather it's you intention or not, Cay, thats what is happening.
It is not their job to post on the forums, no. We are the community managers -- we were hired for our ability to communicate and understand the underlying processes all around us. The developers, will all respect due them, were not hired for their communication skills.
If they spent their day responding to posts -- and there is quite a large volume of posts here daily -- that would leave much less time for development. :P
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Poster: Caydiem at 5/25/2005 4:06:47 PM PDT Subject: Re: Looking for a CM response - What does it |
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Q u o t e: I know this is going to compleatly change the tone of the post from attacking cay... heh.. but it's something I'm curious about.
Cay, when you signed up for CM, what did the job description say? I ask because I have a feeling that a large part of the community feels your only obligation is to sit behind a desk and read posts all day... I may be wrong in thinking it involves more, and if I am... well... I feel sorry for you and am thinking again about every applying for such a job. :-p
My point though, is what was the itemized list (and I'm pretty sure this information can be public as it would be on the job application ne?). I think explaining to us what you do may help us understand that the job is a lot more complex than what a lot of us are thinking.
~Vel
Considering we're hiring another Assistant Community Manager, this will give you some idea:
http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/assistant-community-manager.shtml
- Caydiem -
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