Poster: Grunna at 4/22/2005 2:49:14 PM PDT
Subject: Caydiem - Caught in A Lie? |
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Now, I might have interpretted these posts wrong, but I do not believe so. If I did, please explain to me how, because I would like to know.
First, her post from the thread "Summary & Critique: CM Honor System Response", which can be found at : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=2741347&P=1
Q u o t e:
Vyrus, I edited nothing about "vocal minority" in any of my posts. I never, NEVER said that anyone who complains is in the vocal minority.
I make edits to add or correct typos; I have not removed anything from my posts in the past few days. I'm not saying I never coined the term "vocal minority" -- I did. What I'm clearing up is that I did NOT say that anyone who complains is in that vocal minority, before or after edits.
And just so it's clear, this was edited for clarification -- nothing was removed, only added.
Then, she states:
Q u o t e:
Doesn't look edited to me. I can't say as to why you couldn't find it, though...
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=2681742&P=1
The link points to another thread, which states:
Q u o t e:
As I have said previously, we have indeed been taking your feedback to the developers on this since day one, but things don't necessarily change due to the will of the vocal minority.
I do know that the helm is being reviewed and it may change.
Now, first she states that she never used the term "vocal minority". Then she links to a post using that exact same phrase in the same context as the first thread was complaining about. Am I wrong, or is this a bold-faced lie?[ post edited by Grunna ]
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=2749597&p=#post2749597 | | | Poster: Caydiem at 4/22/2005 2:52:26 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem - Caught in A Lie? |
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Grunna, quote where I said I never used the term "vocal minority".
Let me break down the first part that you bolded:
I never edited anything regarding vocal minority. The original context, if you read the thread, stated that I had posted that statement but then edited it out. This is untrue. I was clearing that up.
The second part you bolded states that I never said that anyone who complains is the vocal minority. This is also true.
I'm not sure where I lied. Could you point it out, please?
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
| | | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=2749597&p=#post2749701 | Poster: Caydiem at 4/22/2005 2:59:23 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Caydiem - Caught in A Lie? |
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No, Grunna, I'm still not seeing the lie.
Breaking it down further:
"I never, NEVER said that anyone who complains is in the vocal minority." That's what I said, correct? To rephrase this in a manner that will hopefully clear it up:
I never said the following: "Anyone who complains is in the vocal minority." Not once have I said this or intentionally implied it, because it's simply not true. The statement you quote about the vocal minority says that we do not necessarily change things based on the view of a vocal minority. That does not say that all complainers are in the vocal minority. If you're drawing that conclusion, you're reading too much into my words; that's simply not there.
So again... please point out the inconsistency.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager
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