Poster: Thundgot at 4/25/2006 4:05:23 PM PDT
Subject: 26/05 Bladefist, Daggerspine and Outland |
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After first deciding to migrate Bladefist and Daggerspine to different realms to ensure the migration would not close due to over-population of Outland we received some good suggestions. We will adopt one of them.
Bladefist will migrate to Outland as planned.
Daggerspine will not migrate this week. Come Friday afternoon we will see how many have moved from Bladefist to Outland. If this number is not too high, Daggerspine will - come Monday - migrate to Outland. If the number of players already on Outland is too high, Daggerspine will migrate to Kazzak where they will later be joined by players from other realms.
And please, people migrating from Bladefist, try to move as many players as possible on Thursday and Friday. While it might be tempting to hold off to allow Daggerspine to migrate to Outland you risk contributing to over-populating Outland creating a bad situation for everyone in the end.
Let's work together on this and aim for a thriving community on Outland. :)
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Poster: Thundgot at 4/25/2006 4:18:02 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 26/05 Bladefist, Daggerspine and Outland |
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Q u o t e:
Why does Bladefist get to migrate first? They get so many advantages with this. Totally unfair...
Because they're the one with the highest expected number of migrations. It had to be one first, then the other, and that seems to me the most logical criteria to use.
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Poster: Thundgot at 4/25/2006 5:00:55 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 26/05 Bladefist, Daggerspine and Outland |
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Q u o t e:
I hope you'll get on 1 realm..
So do we.
Q u o t e:
What exactly is your definition of 'high'.
Survey (it's got to be somewhat accurate) estimates about 3000 migrating people.
I can't give an exact number, but with our regular population concurrency numbers 3000 should be no problem. However, we expect there to be more people migrating than those who have "signed up" on the survey.
Q u o t e:
This solution is still sub-par.
Compared to having had everything working on Monday, absolutely.
Q u o t e:
What about those from Daggerspine bound to end up on Kazzak ? :(
Considering the ammount of people/guilds that have sad they will migrate from Bladefist its bound to be full come friday. Aka welcome to Kazzak , Daggerspiners , then new barren wasteland server.
Then we'll work with the migrating Daggerspine players and people migrating from other realms to make Kazzak an even more awesome community. :)
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I suggest you close Outlands to character creation untill its daggerspines turn to migrate
All destination realms have character creation turned off (uneless the player already has a character on the realm). We hope to keep it closed until migration to the realm has finished all its needed phases.
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Bladefist are still going to outland, and daggerspine are going to kazzak.
they just said it in a different way this time
Now you're assuming that there will be too many migrating from Bladefist. You migth be right. You might not.
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Thundgot, if you will let the Daggerspiners migrate to us aswell will it be monitored and cut of after a certain amount or will you let it be at least one full "migrating-day"?
would be best for the second since that wouldnt cut guilds in half etc
I don't think we'll cut migration in the middle of a day. In extreme scenarios we have to consider it, but that'd be really extreme scenarios too.
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Blizzard , whats the numbers?
I can't give numbers like that. If I could, they would already have been available, not held back waiting for someeon to ask for them.
Q u o t e:
Please dont throw away the newlyfound Outland community, let daggerspine come with us!!
Hopefully we can. I'd like to point out that the first decision to move to different realms was because of the risk of having to close the migration early, not a certainty we would have to do so. We want to play it safe after the problems this week, and the suggestion you players came up with lets us do that while still hopefully accomodating for the Ouland community drawing players from both Bladefist and Daggerspine.
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this is just a diversion. "we will monitor the state of ppl who moves" BS!
you will close it the second they are finished and force us move to kazzak
CRAP!
Hm, are you just trying to agitate people? Anyway, please try be more constructive from now on.
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Poster: Thundgot at 4/25/2006 5:17:33 PM PDT
Subject: Re: 26/05 Bladefist, Daggerspine and Outland |
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Q u o t e:
This means that migraters from Bladefist get to migrate to a new realm, without being concerned over migration caps and to an extent, time limits. Migraters from Daggerspine have to migrate as soon as migration opens for Daggerspine and BEFORE the migration cap is reached otherwise they get punted to Kazzak. A realm which will be very low population after the migration process. Not only this, they risk losing friends and guildmates too, something the migraters from Bladefist dont have to deal with.
If the migration from Bladefist is so high that Daggerspine players are likely to be split between two realms I don't see why we shouldn't let Daggerspine players migrate to Kazzak instead, thus giving them the same freedom of not worrying about caps, redirection and time limits.
This is just a way of allowing the two realms to migrate together if the migration isn't too high.
And once again, there are many more realms migrating. If Daggerspine can't fill up Kazzak alone (if migration there becomes reality) we'll of course direct other realms there too.
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Poster: Thundgot at 4/25/2006 4:05:23 PM PDT
Subject: 26/04 Bladefist, Daggerspine and Outland *edited post* |
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After first deciding to migrate Bladefist and Daggerspine to different realms to ensure the migration would not close due to over-population of Outland we received some good suggestions. We will adopt one of them.
Bladefist will migrate to Outland as planned.
Daggerspine will not migrate this week. Come Friday afternoon we will see how many have moved from Bladefist to Outland. If this number is not too high, Daggerspine will - come Monday - migrate to Outland. If the number of players already on Outland is too high, Daggerspine will migrate to Kazzak where they will later be joined by players from other realms.
And please, people migrating from Bladefist, try to move as many players as possible on Thursday and Friday. While it might be tempting to hold off to allow Daggerspine to migrate to Outland you risk contributing to over-populating Outland creating a bad situation for everyone in the end.
Let's work together on this and aim for a thriving community on Outland. :)[ post edited by Thundgot ]
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Poster: Thundgot at 4/25/2006 4:05:23 PM PDT
Subject: 26/04 Bladefist, Daggerspine and Outland *edited post* |
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Update 17:00 CEST, April 28th
The amount of players (accounts, not just characters) migrating from Bladefist to Outland is so high it's been decided against moving another realm there. Thus Daggerspine migration will point to the new realm Kazzak.
While we understand this is not what many players wanted, we have to prioritize giving everybody a chance to move and not creating a realm with thousands of playere in queue.
Note that based on migration numbers next week we may direct some of the migrating realms in the next phase to Kazzak instead of Grim Batol or Stonemaul.
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After first deciding to migrate Bladefist and Daggerspine to different realms to ensure the migration would not close due to over-population of Outland we received some good suggestions. We will adopt one of them.
Bladefist will migrate to Outland as planned.
Daggerspine will not migrate this week. Come Friday afternoon we will see how many have moved from Bladefist to Outland. If this number is not too high, Daggerspine will - come Monday - migrate to Outland. If the number of players already on Outland is too high, Daggerspine will migrate to Kazzak where they will later be joined by players from other realms.
And please, people migrating from Bladefist, try to move as many players as possible on Thursday and Friday. While it might be tempting to hold off to allow Daggerspine to migrate to Outland you risk contributing to over-populating Outland creating a bad situation for everyone in the end.
Let's work together on this and aim for a thriving community on Outland. :)[ post edited by Thundgot ]
That there is one damn fine epic you're wearin'.
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Poster: Thundgot at 4/28/2006 8:31:00 AM PDT
Subject: Re: 26/04 Bladefist, Daggerspine and Outland |
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Update 17:00 CEST, April 28th
The amount of players (accounts, not just characters) migrating from Bladefist to Outland is so high it's been decided against moving another realm there. Thus Daggerspine migration will point to the new realm Kazzak.
While we understand this is not what many players wanted, we have to prioritize giving everybody a chance to move and not creating a realm with thousands of playere in queue.
Note that based on migration numbers next week we may direct some of the migrating realms in the next phase to Kazzak instead of Grim Batol or Stonemaul.
That there is one damn fine epic you're wearin'.
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