Poster: Bigboybubba at 6/11/2006 7:56:06 PM PDT
Subject: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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I was buying mageweave cloth in AH just now, and was looking for the cheapest ones. I bought like 80, and when i presed buyout for one stack, it lagged so i pressed it again. it works, and i go to retreave from my mailbox. then i check my money. ITS GONE! 99g is gone all the sudden! then i realize from checking my mailbox that I spent 99g on 20 mageweave somehow! WTF. I must have accidentaly boguht the one below it or something...i wanted to kill myself. I guess someone did that on purpouse so that someone would make a mistake and buy it...i was saving for Kang the decapitoator for a while and now im pushed back 99g. I AM PISSED. Does anyone know if there is ANYTHING I can do?? I assume there isnt but its worth a try because I dont know what to do. I didnt want to buy it for 99g!!! I mean...i mean it pisses my off that i dont have the money anymore, but it pisses my off even more that he got away with that, and will most likely try it again..I couldnt think of any other forum to post this in but here...thx=\
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Poster: Pavonum at 6/11/2006 9:04:35 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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Good evening, Bigboybubba! I'm sorry to say that what you have described is not considered to be a "scam," nor is it in violation of our policies in any way; the amount of an item's buyout is at the sole discretion of the player auctioning the item in question. If that player chooses to set the buyout significantly higher than those for like items, it is the responsibility of each individual buyer to note the discrepancy in prices and ensure that they pay no more or less than they want to.
Improvements have been made to the Auction House interface to make certain that each denomination of currency -- gold, silver, copper -- is fully displayed, even if the value is 0. An additional preventative measure is a confirmation dialogue box which appears whenever a player opts to buy out an item, allowing them to avoid spending more gold than they mean to. Thus, player accountability must be considered in the event that someone, despite these built-in precautions, still inadvertently spends more than they intended.
In short: No action shall be taken against any player who chooses to set a particular item at a significantly higher buyout price than other, similar items. As such, I would encourage all players to exercise caution when purchasing items in the Auction House, so that they may be sure to get what they feel to be a fair price. :)
And teeming with souls shall it ever be...
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Poster: Pavonum at 6/11/2006 9:04:35 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad *edited post* |
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Good evening, Bigboybubba! I'm sorry to say that what you have described is not considered to be a "scam," nor is it in violation of our policies in any way; the amount of an item's buyout is at the sole discretion of the player auctioning the item in question. If that player chooses to set the buyout significantly higher than those for like items, it is the responsibility of each individual buyer to note the discrepancy in prices and ensure that they pay no more or less than they want to.
Improvements have been made to the Auction House interface to make certain that each denomination of currency -- gold, silver, copper -- is fully displayed, even if the value is 0. An additional preventative measure is a confirmation dialogue box which appears whenever a player opts to buy out an item, allowing them to avoid spending more gold than they mean to. Thus, player accountability must be considered in the event that someone, despite these built-in precautions, still inadvertently spends more than they intended.
In short: No action shall be taken against any player who chooses to set a particular item at a significantly higher buyout price than other, similar items. As such, I would encourage all players to exercise caution when purchasing items in the Auction House, so that they may be sure to get what they feel to be a fair price. :)
And teeming with souls shall it ever be...
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Poster: Berghe at 7/3/2006 3:54:10 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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Q u o t e:
But, wouldn't that guy have stolen your $81 technically? Or no?
Edit: And thus would be RL /reportable?
That particular example isn't the best.
Imagine you went to a thrift store and purchased a great jacket for what you thought was $8.10, and handed your credit card to the nice lady behind the counter (where the 'no refunds, no returns' sign was also posted). Then a few weeks later you were going through your credit card statement and noticed it was $810.00; you run to your closet, find the bag you were given, fish for the price tag you tore off and see that it was $810.00.
It is extremely unfortunate, but alas it is fair - regardless of the quality of the jacket, and whether it was worth $8.10 or $810.00.
Death, but not for you.
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Poster: Batta at 7/3/2006 7:26:53 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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Thanks Blizzard for making a game where social degenerates have free reign!
And a game where players occasionally must assume personal responsibility for their purchasing mistakes as consumers in a free market? = )
And they say the truth still roams these very woods..
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Poster: Batta at 7/5/2006 12:21:22 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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Morals are only subjective to people lacking them in the first place.
I'd just like to note that to scrutinize morality is essentially to judge the goodness or badness of human action and character. To say that passing judgment on another human's actions is in no way a subjective analysis is a fallacy; granted, there are some widely accepted, agreed upon, or acknowledged moral standards. With that said, not all widely accepted, agreed upon, or acknowledged immoral acts are against the law. This is where we find ourselves when concerned with overpriced items on the Auction House, which is a contingency of the free market.
For those of you who have made some functionality suggestions for altering the game mechanics to help limit these cases (some of which I feel are great ideas), please spark this dialogue on our Suggestions forum.[ post edited by Batta ]
She's got everything I need, pharmacy keys...
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Poster: Batta at 7/5/2006 12:54:30 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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The issue here is that game mechanics make it possible to "scam" people into purchasing an item by accident by purposely listing in multiples of 10x.
This simply is not true. The issue is that people are not paying attention to the preventative measures in place in the game mechanic to ensure players are made fully aware of the price they are paying for an item. These preventative acknowledgments of the price one is paying for an item have been repeatedly reinforced over time. If the Auction House is considered a free market, which is protected by game mechanics, we can't very well institute a grey area where an auction listed could be considered a scam. If it is made to look like a scam, all the information is in the game mechanic to show you the actual price, and additionally confirm you'd like to pay that price; so, don't buy it.
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You might be holding the party line because it's your job... but deep down in side you know that people loosing hundreds and thousands of gold because of the current system is not right.
In this particular situation, I stand strongly by my assertions in accordance with Blizzard's policy.[ post edited by Batta ]
She's got everything I need, pharmacy keys...
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Poster: Batta at 7/5/2006 1:13:34 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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So you agree that it is morally repugnant to consistantly charge 100 times the going price of a stack of silk to intentionally hope to catch someone not paying attention?
That's all I was looking for, thanks.
Yes, I do not believe, even in a video game, that it is morally agreeable to intentionally overlist an item in the hopes to catch a player off guard. I have never personally attempted to take advantage of another player in such a way. Again though, I do not feel there should be legalities/policies enforced to protect players from this in a free market given the game mechanics already put into place.
She's got everything I need, pharmacy keys...
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Poster: Batta at 7/6/2006 5:17:41 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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Caveat Emptor, 'Buyer beware' is the motto though, read your confirmation prompt carefully before clicking it.
-SoulBane
Restated for correctness, although I must say I'm simply quoting the Mars Volta. ; )
Caveat emptor to all that enter here
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Poster: Batta at 7/12/2006 1:42:32 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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Do you want some cheese with all this
WHINE???
You buying, Cuj? ; )
in... out... in... out...
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Poster: Kaone at 7/19/2006 12:41:23 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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Personally, I'd rather Blizzard fix the issue by ordering items by their buyout price, not their initial bid price.
That is a valid suggestion. I would recommend you post that over on the Suggestions Forum at:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?fn=wow-suggestions
We are open to any ideas for improving the functionality of this system in order to make it easier for players to shop in the Auction Houses.
Save Sharpbeak from the trolls of Jintha'Alor!
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Poster: Batta at 8/21/2006 11:53:50 AM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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And according to the blizzard TOS doing something to intentionaly confuse a person or player in hopes of defrauding them is consider a scam.
Now this sure seems to fall under that definition...
The reason this does type of activity is not considered a scam (which I'm sure I've stated elsewhere in this thread) is because there is no confusion resulting from price misrepresentation. Yes, the price maybe set in a different value - i.e. 99g instead of 99s - however, there is still no misrepresentation in the way the price itself reads.
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Well I have read several pages of post and I see one blue reponse after about 5 post and then 15 pages of people who are either saying its a scam or people who say it is not.
This is the tenth blue response to this thread. I strongly suggest reading through the rest of the thread before continuing your assertions, Sarik. ; )
Comfort is a mystery crawling out of my own skin
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Poster: Batta at 8/21/2006 1:08:54 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Overpayed in AH...am very mad |
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Batta do you really think these types of auctions exist for any other reason than to rip off people?
That's not the point. The point is that players are fully protected by the functionality of the auction house simply by paying attention to the prices. For this reason, it is difficult to label the activities mentioned in this thread as scamming.
I am also aware that players will cancel their auctions if you bid on them. Since cancelling auctions is another activity permitted by the functionality of the auction house, it is fully within a player's right to cancel an auction at any time before its conclusion.
This is the way the auction house operations currently stand. Beyond this, you will need to note your ideas regarding deposits, or our policies toward this type of auction listing on the Suggestions forum. I did not personally create this policy; however, it happens to be a policy I enforce, and with which I can agree (and no, I do not personally list auctions in such a way on my own time).
Comfort is a mystery crawling out of my own skin
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