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Poster: Thunk at 6/29/2005 9:50:03 PM PDT
Subject: Stupidest Feature in MMO History
   Tonight in MC, two epic items went to the wrong people. Why? Because our Master Looter couldn't give them to the rightful winners. Why? Evidently because they died and their release timer expired before Garr went down. It's the second time this has happened this week alone.

Here's the response we got from a GM:

Q u o t e:
Alright, this is working correctly. If a player releases from combat prior to the death of the boss, or is not close enough to the boss/monster will usually not be put on the "loot list" - that is working as intended :/

Not allowing raid loot to go to someone simply because they died during the fight is freaking BS. How many guilds would be successful if they tried to enforce such a ridiculous rule? All the time and effort we each put in to developing a strategy that works, then playing our asses off to finally take the mob down after several tries, and this bug is the reward. "Oops, you died and released because the fight took longer than 5 minutes, so you don't get any loot." How could anyone justify that??

This has been a big source of controversy for us, over how to handle NOT giving loot to the rightful owner, but to someone else instead. People work for months to get some of these items. Loot is one of the biggest reasons people keep playing this game. Please, for the love of WoW, fix this in an emergency patch ASAP!!

EDIT: Lots of people are saying use FFA. Note, this STILL HAPPENS even if the looting is set to FFA.

Blizzard may be preventing an exploit with this feature, but they BROKE legitimate playability in the process. If Microsoft patched file sharing to prevent an exploit, and consequently nobody could share legitimate files anymore, Microsoft whould look even more stupid than they arleady do. If you break something with a fix, that's a BUG.

EDIT2: Added GM quote, title changed to something more appropriate.

[ post edited by Thunk ]


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Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:32:47 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Stupidest Feature in MMO History
   This is not a "feature" but most definitely a bug. A bug we are going to fix, and one that we want players to know that it's a serious problem.

Again, most definitely not a feature and yes.

*Please understand that new information comes out and we are updated with this new info. The fact that this is a bug was verified only recently.

[ post edited by Tyren ]

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Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:40:27 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Stupidest Feature in MMO History
   Please understand that new information comes out and we are updated with this new info. The fact that this is a bug was verified only recently.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=3816722&p=#post3846381
Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:51:31 PM PDT
Subject: Re: When are you going to fix this raid loot
   Let me stress again that I just happened to have the popular info at the right time. Please do not disparage the GMs just because they had to provide the info that was available to them.
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Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:32:47 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Stupidest Feature in MMO History *edited post*
   This is not a "feature" but most definitely a bug. A bug we are going to fix, and one that we want players to know that it's a serious problem.

Again, most definitely not a feature and yes.

*Please understand that new information comes out and we are updated with this new info. The fact that this is a bug was verified only recently.

[ post edited by Tyren ]

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Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:40:27 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Stupidest Feature in MMO History *edited post*
   Please understand that new information comes out and we are updated with this new info. The fact that this is a bug was verified only recently.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=3816722&p=#post3846381
Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:51:31 PM PDT
Subject: Re: When are you going to fix this raid loot *edited post*
   Let me stress again that I just happened to have the popular info at the right time. Please do not disparage the GMs just because they had to provide the info that was available to them.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=3816722&p=#post3846569
Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:32:47 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Stupidest Feature in MMO History *edited post*
   This is not a "feature" but most definitely a bug. A bug we are going to fix, and one that we want players to know that it's a serious problem.

Again, most definitely not a feature and yes.

*Please understand that new information comes out and we are updated with this new info. The fact that this is a bug was verified only recently.

[ post edited by Tyren ]

  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=3816722&p=#post3846250
Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:40:27 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Stupidest Feature in MMO History *edited post*
   Please understand that new information comes out and we are updated with this new info. The fact that this is a bug was verified only recently.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=3816722&p=#post3846381
Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:51:31 PM PDT
Subject: Re: When are you going to fix this raid loot *edited post*
   Let me stress again that I just happened to have the popular info at the right time. Please do not disparage the GMs just because they had to provide the info that was available to them.
  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=3816722&p=#post3846569
Poster: Tyren at 7/1/2005 1:32:47 PM PDT
Subject: Re: Stupidest Feature in MMO History *edited post*
   This is not a "feature" but most definitely a bug. A bug we are going to fix, and one that we want players to know that it's a serious problem.

Again, most definitely not a feature and yes.

*Please understand that new information comes out and we are updated with this new info. The fact that this is a bug was verified only recently. GMs will be unable to assist with this issue. We are however, working to address the bug directly.

[ post edited by Tyren ]

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